The 9/11 conspiracy discussion thread - Bring your mind, not your mouth-

[Kielan]

1. honestly, me and my college roommate have the most common sense in the world and yesterday we were in fact made firm believers of this. I watched the vieos and told him about it and even HE was like na i have my doubts and what not. 2. after watching the video we was vastly shocked at the amount of info and the legitimacy of just about rclaim,

3. my BIGGEST argument is that the Government has ALWAYS been one working behind our backs, and to be naive and think they would NEVER hurt our own civilians is beyond believable. one word my friends;

Cointellpro

what makes you think its the most impossible thing to knowingly kill our own... we have been doing it for centuries. And Cointell pro was that our political leaders and individuals that were a major role in society, 9/11 was merely a few thousand every day citizens. Cointellpro was done because the govt was being exploited by these people for having imperfections and unethical ways of doing things. They did it to save their asses.

9/11 same thing, it was done with motives involved for bettering the sake of our government. 4. money is the up most greed in this world, and that we surely reaped in the end...

1. No you don't have the most common sense in the world, otherwise you would realize that arguing this on the internet with people who aren't ever going to agree with you is stupid and you would have never even posted in here.
2. Have you watched the other videos which debunk this one? Yeah, no you haven't obviously, because they make even stronger cases to prove it wrong.
3. Yes the gov't HAS to work behind closed doors as well, you think it would get shit done if the people knew about everything? Hell fucking no they wouldn't. Military Ops would go straight out the window, internal investigations would be fucked, finding people that are intentionally hiding from us, would not be possible, there is a ton of shit that they have to do behind closed doors to make sure we the American people don't fuck up, which we have a great tendency to do.
4. Money is a big deal, oil is too. But if you honestly think that tons of people made money off 9/11 you are HORRIBLY wrong, since then our economy has gone to shit, shit the Aussie dollar is worth more than the American dollar, what the fuck is up that. 9/11 didn't do shit for America, it fucked us, and it fucked us hard. We are not nearly the same country we were 10 years ago.

[Bracknaphobia]

this morning i woke up with a smile on my face. because the first thing i thought was, how funny it is when u try to talk about this type of problem, the brainwashed always come out to point out shit that doesnt have anything to do with it. like grammar or what have you. doing exactly what the government wants u to do. changing the subject, and turning people that see through the bullshit into the monsters. the non-patriotic. if anything, u people are the traitors. turning to look the other way knowing that the government is fucking this country big time.

u think killing a few thousand people is bad? how about watching 400,000 citizens of ur own country die each year due to a product u make billions off of taxes. dont u think they would make cigaretts illegal if they cared about something other than those green backs? thats what i would do.

Anyways, I can see why a lot of people consider this a conspiracy. Some of the facts are there, and some of the evidence nobody can argue against. But that "Loose Change" film really doesn't have any credibility to me, considering that it was written, directed, and produced by three dudes under 30, one of which deserted the military and allegedly sold heroin, and one who started making films because he was denied acceptance to film school twice.

So, until the government releases or unclassifies something official, I'm on the fence about this. But really, I don't see the point of talking about it or bitching about it, because what are we going to do? Nothing.

But what do I know? I'm just a non-patriot and a traitor

[Kielan]

But really, I don't see the point of talking about it or bitching about it, because what are we going to do? Nothing.

Nah Cole, they're going to take down the government.

[Bracknaphobia]

shit the Aussie dollar is worth more than the American dollar, what the fuck is up with that?

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[Bracknaphobia]

honestly, me and my college roommate have the most common sense in the world and yesterday we were in fact made firm believers of this. I watched the videos and told him about it and even HE was like na i have my doubts and what not. after watching the video we was vastly shocked at the amount of info and the legitimacy of just about every claim,

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

[J.Wolfe]

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

say what you want, but when I'm in a rant mode. things will be said. and not perfect... you know just like the government and they're keen ability to say and get things right the first time right?

[Bracknaphobia]

Truth...politicians are sneaky bastards. I really quoted Billy Madison just for laughs anyway.

[J.Wolfe]

1. No you don't have the most common sense in the world, otherwise you would realize that arguing this on the internet with people who aren't ever going to agree with you is stupid and you would have never even posted in here.
2. Have you watched the other videos which debunk this one? Yeah, no you haven't obviously, because they make even stronger cases to prove it wrong.
3. Yes the gov't HAS to work behind closed doors as well, you think it would get shit done if the people knew about everything? Hell fucking no they wouldn't. Military Ops would go straight out the window, internal investigations would be fucked, finding people that are intentionally hiding from us, would not be possible, there is a ton of shit that they have to do behind closed doors to make sure we the American people don't fuck up, which we have a great tendency to do.
4. Money is a big deal, oil is too. But if you honestly think that tons of people made money off 9/11 you are HORRIBLY wrong, since then our economy has gone to shit, shit the Aussie dollar is worth more than the American dollar, what the fuck is up that. 9/11 didn't do shit for America, it fucked us, and it fucked us hard. We are not nearly the same country we were 10 years ago.

you mean the same ones that ALSO try and debunk the pentagon incident and flight 93? yea i have, and im not going to believe a thing they have to say if one account has already been beaten to death w/ a stick that it was in fact done by other means then the government claimed with those 2 accounts. planes don't just disappear into fairy land. so already is 1-0 because its a fact a plane did not hit the pentagon... and 2-0 because of flight 93

point 3 does you no good for you're sake of the argument at all lol

point 4 have a reality check. when HAS the economy ever been good... (trillions upon trillions in debt) desperate acts call for desperate measures they had damn good intentions of making bank from the war... too bad they failed, just like trying to reenact a terrorist attack on or own country and keep it a secret.

[Bruno730]

don't get off scope! bring facts. this isn't a pissing contest.

[J.Wolfe]

^exactly. i can argue the factual way, or the way everyone else seem to want to argue. both i feel i have a much better understanding and comprehension then what is coming out of the mouths of you guys. besides you bruno730. clearly

[Bracknaphobia]

don't get off scope! bring facts. this isn't a pissing contest.

^exactly. i can argue the factual way, or the way everyone else seem to want to argue. both i feel i have a much better understanding and comprehension then what is coming out of the mouths of you guys. besides you bruno730. clearly

Every country is in debt in some way or another. I'm sure Kielan was just trying to point out that were worse off than we have been in decades.

[J.Wolfe]

when some factual arguments are brought forth from you guys besides "have you seen the debunk videos!!??" then maybe ill take back statements like that... because no one has proved shit to me besides some of Bruno's points

[Kielan]

You clearly don't know much about our nations economy, or how well it was doing pre-2001.

[Bracknaphobia]

when some factual arguments are brought forth from you guys besides "have you seen the debunk videos!!??" then maybe ill take back statements like that... because no one has proved shit to me besides some of Bruno's points

That's just a big assertion to make for someone who hasn't exactly backed up all of his facts, or "proven" anything to anyone else either.

[J.Wolfe]

brought forth much more then you or anyone else. plus im no relay man... the facts are out there, so don't be lazy and wait for me to try and prove my points just for the sake of an argument. when they are clicks away.


and you Kielan clearly take facts that smack you in the fact, rub them off like it was a nat, and go about your opinion... you've clearly simmered down with fighting what i have to say, it started w/ paragraphs, and now its come down to incomplete sentences? seems you're argument has simmered down for some odd reason... hmm