The 9/11 conspiracy discussion thread - Bring your mind, not your mouth-

[Bruno730]

there has to be a distinction between this alleged conspiracy and the United States as a whole. I think the country is run VERY poorly right now, that the government is too hands on, and that we're stifled by regulations, etc.. but that has no bearing on my analysis of September 11. If you want to discuss GDP and debt and inflation rates and economy that is a different topic IMO.

I saw it was stated that it's reported that the government did this in an attempt to "cash-in" I'd much rather believe that the government did it to justify the war on terror but once again i find no evidence that such is the case. If that were true wouldn't obama have destroyed all our infrastructure by now in an attempt to "cash-in"?

also, i'd have a much easier time believing that the government was behind it, if numerous other terrorist attacks didn't occurr by which the group blatantly took credit for.

[Bracknaphobia]

brought forth much more then you or anyone else. plus im no relay man... the facts are out there, so don't be lazy and wait for me to try and prove my points juste for the sake of an argument. when they are clicks away.


and you clearly take facts that smack you in the fact, rub them off like it was a nat, and go about your opinion...

I'll know when a real, credible fact smacks me in the...fact...

And I will go about my opinion, because I'm entitled to it. As are you with yours.

[NegativeCamber]

4. Money is a big deal, oil is too. But if you honestly think that tons of people made money off 9/11 you are HORRIBLY wrong, since then our economy has gone to shit, shit the Aussie dollar is worth more than the American dollar, what the fuck is up that. 9/11 didn't do shit for America, it fucked us, and it fucked us hard. We are not nearly the same country we were 10 years ago.

K, you couldnt be more wrong about #4. many big names made big money off of the actions taken after 9/11. many of those big names invested in companies months before the event that would be directly used in homeland security interests. if that isnt clear enough for you, let me point out the elephant in the room. its called WAR. as a direct result of any retaliatory action or preemptive strike (which is what we have carried out so far at expense of innocent lives) from 9/11, big business has profited in gross amounts because of war.it is widely known to be used to avoid economic depression.

[Kielan]

brought forth much more then you or anyone else. plus im no relay man... the facts are out there, so don't be lazy and wait for me to try and prove my points just for the sake of an argument. when they are clicks away.


and you Kielan clearly take facts that smack you in the fact, rub them off like it was a nat, and go about your opinion... you've clearly simmered down with fighting what i have to say, it started w/ paragraphs, and now its come down to incomplete sentences? seems you're argument has simmered down for some odd reason... hmm

Simmered down? You're points are absolutely absurd, I don't feel like wasting my time. For someone with so much common sense, I would have thought you would have realized that this whole thing is pointless to even dispute.

And by the way that was a complete sentence.

[Kielan]

K, you couldnt be more wrong about #4. many big names made big money off of the actions taken after 9/11. many of those big names invested in companies months before the event that would be directly used in homeland security interests. if that isnt clear enough for you, let me point out the elephant in the room. its called WAR. as a direct result of any retaliatory action or preemptive strike (which is what we have carried out so far at expense of innocent lives) from 9/11, big business has profited in gross amounts because of war.it is widely known to be used to avoid economic depression.

Big business sure, 90% of the American population however?

[J.Wolfe]

also, i'd have a much easier time believing that the government was behind it, if numerous other terrorist attacks didn't occurr by which the group blatantly took credit for.

VERY BIG point that has not been brought forth. Al-Qaeda is a CIA invented group. WHY do you think they so blatently took credit for these acts, because it would steer any ideas of the govt actually having anything to do with 9/11

Oh and FYI: Al-Qaeda means "the Base"... "[According to a Pakistani major] the database was divided into two parts, the information file where the participants in the meetings could pick up and send information they needed, and the decision file where the decisions made during the previous sessions were recorded and stored. In Arabic, the files were called, 'Q eidat il-Maaloomaat' and 'Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.' Those two files were kept in one file called in Arabic 'Q eidat ilmu'ti'aat' which is the exact translation of the English word database.

hmmm i wonder what the american database would be... take a guess anyone? The Government

more than half of the initial terrorists that were found guilty (in a matter of 4 days after 9/11- extremely fast) popped up one by one in random countries later claiming of having nothing to do with these acts, they were freed. These men were told and taught every single step by the government into how to act in public and make their presence, name, and intentions clearly known to the public leading up to 9/11, so there would be the "countless witnesses" to seeing these men, knowing their name, and having an idea of their intention w/o knowing what exactly. There is documentation of illegally signed and filled out forms of receiving credit cards, and passports that were oddly signed off on by the government to allow them this access.
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Al Qaeda was created by the CIA, in their offices in Washington D.C., According to Richard Clark in his most recent book. It was created for Saudi Arabia to bankroll Osama bin Laden, through the House of Saud, "in the Afghan war against the Soviet Union during the 1980's and Riyadh and Washington together contributed an estimated $3.5 billion to the mujahideen."

"In late 2003, U.S. News & World Report conducted an exhaustive study titled. 'The Saudi Connection.' Its findings included the following."

"The evidence was indisputable: Saudi Arabia, America's longtime ally and the world's largest oil producer, had somehow become, as a senior Treasury Department official put it, 'the epicenter' of terrorist financing'

"In October 2003, Vanity Fair magazine disclosed information that had not previously been made public, in an in-depth report entitled 'Saving the Saudis.' The story that emerged about the relationship between the Bush family, the House of Saud, and the bin Laden family" (outlined) relationships that went back at least to the time of the Saudi Arabian Money-laundering Affair which began in 1974, and to George H.W. Bush's terms as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations (1971-1973) and then as head of the CIA (1976-1977).

"Vanity Fair concluded: The Bush family and the House of Saud, the two most powerful dynasties in the world, have had closed personal business, and political ties for more than 20 years'.

[Kielan]

So the European attacks that Al Queda very VERY blatantly took credit for, those are a conspiracy too? Dude. If you are trying to send a message, you are going to say very loudly and clearly that it was you who got the world to pay attention.

[Dudermagee]

Big business sure, 90% of the American population however?

What does Big business have to do with america?
They no longer care about america as they are all global.

[NegativeCamber]

Big business sure, 90% of the American population however?

generally speaking, the population will never receive a share in the wealth involving strategic moves on a national level, but we will always inherit the sorrows of their actions. so when i speak about who benefits and who loses, i almost never am addressing the general American population. as Duder said, the globalists are those who profit. they do not necessarily have to be American based.

[hek1620]

K, you couldnt be more wrong about #4. many big names made big money off of the actions taken after 9/11. many of those big names invested in companies months before the event that would be directly used in homeland security interests. if that isnt clear enough for you, let me point out the elephant in the room. its called WAR. as a direct result of any retaliatory action or preemptive strike (which is what we have carried out so far at expense of innocent lives) from 9/11, big business has profited in gross amounts because of war.it is widely known to be used to avoid economic depression.

thanks.


kielan, no one ever said it was done with the intention of making the country loot. just the people running it. the one percent. you really just don't see it all flying over ur head. and he didn't say behind closed doors. he said behind our backs. big fucking difference. u might use capital letters, but u seem pretty fuckin dense if u ask me.

[Kielan]

generally speaking, the population will never share the wealth involving strategic moves on a national level, but we will always inherit the sorrows of their actions. so when i speak about who benefits and who loses, i almost never am addressing the general American population. as Duder said, the globalists are those who profit. they do not have to be American based.

Ahhh, I was referring to the general population. I see where our difference lies, and I completely agree.

[Kielan]

thanks.


kielan, no one ever said it was done with the intention of making the country loot. just the people running it. the one percent. you really just don't see it all flying over ur head. and he didn't say behind closed doors. he said behind our backs. big fucking difference. u might use capital letters, but u seem pretty fuckin dense if u ask me.

Why do you keep making personal attacks? It's not benefitting your point.

[hek1620]

its funny how the two people in this thread that make fun and insult others, are the most blind. not to mention that they STILL havent brought anything of worth. just childish nonsense. also the only two that have said it's not worth talking about. THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GET THE FUCK OUT so the rest of us can have an adult conversation.

[NegativeCamber]

Ahhh, I was referring to the general population. I see where our difference lies, and I completely agree.

for sure. if you are taking about us, then i agree as well. we lost so much and gained nothing from the event. not only a loss of lives, economic suffering, and attacks on our freedoms, but it has separated our country further....it completely polarized it and this thread is proof of its existence.

[hek1620]

if ur gonna get offended, dont throw the first blow. here's some friendly advise(no bullshit) read a couple books. like 1984 and behold a pale horse. then tell me if u still have faith in ur country.