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  • Originally posted by Creation View Post
    It just seemed every diagram I pulled up had things switched on the relay. And whenever I turned the car over all you heard was "click" and then silence.

    My problem was I was actually trying to use the ignition wire as a critical wire. Turns out, if you are running switchspeed and a mechanical pressure switch the ECU ignition wire is just ignored.

    But all the guides I opened up had the constant powers, switch, and the jumpers from the pressure switch all jumbled up.
    Here's how I'd wire them:


    Originally posted by Creation View Post
    How should I go about preventing the PTC on the gauges from leaking? Can I just tape the end? Or is there a trick?
    Which fitting exactly is leaking? I had it in my head that you were using digital gauges with 1/8" NPT senders.



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    • Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Post
      Here's how I'd wire them:


      Which fitting exactly is leaking? I had it in my head that you were using digital gauges with 1/8" NPT senders.
      Thank you for the diagram. That's how they are wired now, except my pressure pin is setup on the constant power as well since the accessory wire I had wasn't giving them the signal I guess. They still cut off when I hit 200psi and kick on around 160 if I get low. I just have it unplugged currently until I can get the time tonight to leak test.

      For the gauges I'm running the triple analog setup with the 1/8th senders. The PTC portion of them are leaking air on about 3 of the senders behind the gauge.

      Also, my tank line to the middle t with the gauge wire is leaking on the PTC end. Any ideas how to prevent that from leaking?


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      • They will need to be wired to accessory or ignition power eventually, or they'll run even with the car off.

        I'm afraid 1/8" PTC is pretty notorious. The only thing you can really do is ensure that the ends of your lines are cut extremely straight and extremely cleanly, with no burrs or debris whatsoever.



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        • Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Post
          They will need to be wired to accessory or ignition power eventually, or they'll run even with the car off.

          I'm afraid 1/8" PTC is pretty notorious. The only thing you can really do is ensure that the ends of your lines are cut extremely straight and extremely cleanly, with no burrs or debris whatsoever.
          I'll work on a solution for the wire I just needed a temporary solution.

          Would tape around the wire help? Or do you think it won't slide in?

          The 1/8th are the most difficult ones I've encountered.


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          • You mean thread tape? Thread tape isn't really a sealant, it's a lubricant.

            The issue here is that there are no 1/8" PTC lines that are DOT-rated. DOT-rated fittings like the SMC KV2 line have a much more robust sealing mechanism inside, so they're a lot less picky about perfect cuts and so forth. Add to that the tiny size of the 1/8" lines, and there you go. It's also possible - unlikely, but possible - that you have defective fittings.



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            • Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Post
              You mean thread tape? Thread tape isn't really a sealant, it's a lubricant.

              The issue here is that there are no 1/8" PTC lines that are DOT-rated. DOT-rated fittings like the SMC KV2 line have a much more robust sealing mechanism inside, so they're a lot less picky about perfect cuts and so forth. Add to that the tiny size of the 1/8" lines, and there you go. It's also possible - unlikely, but possible - that you have defective fittings.

              Alright. I figured maybe the extra material may help it seal up.

              I don't think it's the fittings, I'll try some better cuts and see where it gets me.

              My console still isn't done, so I need to find a way to temporarily mount these gauges.


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              • It's not really the sides of the line that are sealed against, but the cut end itself. There's an o-ring in there that seals against the cut end of the line, and then some teeth that pull the line into the fitting. It's kinda screwy how they work, but they do work.



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                • Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Post
                  It's not really the sides of the line that are sealed against, but the cut end itself. There's an o-ring in there that seals against the cut end of the line, and then some teeth that pull the line into the fitting. It's kinda screwy how they work, but they do work.
                  I'll double check them all later today and try and tighten some of the other fittings to stop the leaks.

                  Any ideas of how to mount the gauges temporarily? We tried a box but it caved in due to weight. I thought about PVC but I didn't know how I'd stand them up and wood was an option but the garage drill isn't the greatest.


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                  • I dunno, if it's seriously temporary, I'd probably just duct tape them to something.

                    Otherwise, something like this is cheap and easy.



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                    • Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Post
                      I dunno, if it's seriously temporary, I'd probably just duct tape them to something.

                      Otherwise, something like this is cheap and easy.

                      It should only be a few days. It seems the fabricator I thought was perfect for the job who had an open schedule due to a job cut, now has 0 time for my paid project.


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                      • Originally posted by Creation View Post
                        It should only be a few days. It seems the fabricator I thought was perfect for the job who had an open schedule due to a job cut, now has 0 time for my paid project.
                        Hm. Sounds like the last time I had a car in the body shop.

                        You willing to teach yourself how to do fiberglass? It ain't hard.



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                        • Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Post
                          Hm. Sounds like the last time I had a car in the body shop.

                          You willing to teach yourself how to do fiberglass? It ain't hard.
                          I wouldn't mind learning, it seems like a useful skill to know. I'm just frustrated about this console. This "two day" job hasn't been completed in 3 weeks. He's even got all the parts cut supposedly just needs to be welded together.


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                          • Every "creative professional" I've ever known has been terrible at time management. I don't tend to find my business relationship with them able to last much beyond a single transaction. Painters, fabricators, stereo installers, all of 'em. The only exception was the guy I had weld up by bag brackets.

                            You might have to go crack some heads.

                            And now you know why I try to do everything myself.



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                            • Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Post
                              Every "creative professional" I've ever known has been terrible at time management. I don't tend to find my business relationship with them able to last much beyond a single transaction. Painters, fabricators, stereo installers, all of 'em. The only exception was the guy I had weld up by bag brackets.

                              You might have to go crack some heads.

                              And now you know why I try to do everything myself.

                              I'm starting to see that. Everything I seem to send off takes 10x longer than my original quote. Hell, I'm still waiting on my adjustable toe links that were ordered 3 months ago with my camber arms with a 2 week turnaround. I got my camber arms but the toe links are still in progress.


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                              • WAOAH So its almost finished?

                                Cant wait for aired out pictures. Also all the jeep people will **** your car with the fire of a thousand sons. But thats ok cause pushing limits is cool. Congrats on bagging the car.

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