The 9/11 conspiracy discussion thread - Bring your mind, not your mouth-

[J.Wolfe]

thanks, much appreciated guys... idc what you think obviously as i mainly just wanted people to view that video and see what i saw, and comment on that theory as its a new one to me also.

planes or not. its not a terrorist act in my book, and im not alone whatsoever in that fact

[Carter N]

planes or not. its not a terrorist act in my book, and im not alone whatsoever in that fact

Watch and spread this, http://youtu.be/j5FhQc-LJ-o

[Ollie]

while I see where you are getting at, the whole insulting the victims statement doesn't work here.there are victim's families also calling for a re investigation. Also ever heard of marines for 911 truth? I'm playing devils advocate here.

I hear you on that. Do you think so many people imagined the planes flying though? People see crazy shit that's not there in panicky situations, no doubt, but that many people would swear by it? And I'm going from hearing it from people I trust that had a stake in what was lost.

Nah never seen that. I used to be big on this myself and dead set that the government conspired the whole thing. I've watched hours of videos and researched for weeks. Eventually I found it ridiculous though.

[Kielan]

James, I have heard the thermite thing before, and I don't disbelieve that it is a possibility, I would really like to know just how hot it was in there, and how severely the planes damaged the core supports of the buildings.

Let it be known, while I don't believe this was a gov't attack, there is always a small chance that there is, although the reasoning is arguably there, going to these lengths just wouldn't be necessary. I will believe what I want to believe because, this whole living in fear thing isn't good for anyone's head. We have no control over what they do, there is no way you could over throw the govt, before you could get anywhere, you'd be dead, and no one would even remember you existed.

[J.Wolfe]

Watch and spread this, http://youtu.be/j5FhQc-LJ-o

will do, i think the pentagon and flight 93 are much more acceptable to being complete frauds to the general public. i personally dont even bother debating those accounts anymore as im a pretty firm believer.

9/11 its still debatable... clearly as i make people loose their minds over what ive posted and said LOL

[J.Wolfe]

also something ive figured as a reasonable theory to the no plane thing is if in fact no planes were evident in the crash, the government would surely HAVE to make sure zero traces of this was the case as a plane would have most definitely been discovered in some tactility to show traces of its existence, but if there was no plane and it was a missile then the detonating of the buildings seem very plausible as to the main reason why they would have collapsed them in the first place... just something to think about

ill just end it w. this photo from the news cast that everyone saw that really fuels the fire for most that argue this.



again i say i initially can believe some of the claims... doesnt mean a persons opinion is a concrete one. im just giving out info i feel needs to be approached and looked at. i see the opinions of most are just completely completly against it, and i mean duh, of course i expected that, im just saying i see things that make me believe enough to not rule out any theory given the right info to back it up... follow me?

[Ollie]

James, this is what I read about the thermite thing a few years ago:

http://www.911myths.com/WTCTHERM.pdf

There's no way I'm reading it again though

[Carter N]

What I find most disturbing is despite all these videos with their combined viewership reaching into the millions there is still no public outcry for a real investigation or explanation.

[J.Wolfe]

because we know that the government can honestly just tell us nothing as they have been doing for some time on many issues other then 9/11

[Kielan]

This is all speculation however, where as before you were calling them facts. That is where your problem lies and you were attacking those who didn't believe the same as you because they speculate differently than yourself. Being open to new ideas is what this thread is all about, not calling people idiots because they don't believe your opinion.

[J.Wolfe]

interesting vids and interview

http://www.cosmicchannelings.com/blog/911-fake-plane-john-lear-noplanes-holograms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ek-Q0T9wK2g#at=12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9cvWwIxMbmE#at=362

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3i-pksWo-Y4#at=25

[Oxer]

Well seeing as my Uncle saw that shit happen, I'm going to believe him... And why do you need to resort to personal attacks, seriously, that isn't doing anything for your points at all.... I don't get what you are trying to prove, cool you can talk shit on the internet? This is supposed to be an intelligent conversation, where everyone is supposed to be respectful, so far you 3 pushing this have been anything but.

Kielan, you push your opinion as much as anyone else in this thread. Im sick of the term "Personal attack". To me, a personal attack is someone coming to your house and punching you in the face, not calling you out on points of your opinion/beleifs. Is it not true that you too do the same to those who believe in God?

Also, if you're going to say you're not going to post in this thread because there are people who oppose your opinions, the mature thing to do would be to actually stay out of the thread

And no, because this is directed at you, its not a personal attack.




On this topic, from an outside perspective, will any of us actually ever find out the truth? Governments have always tried to fuck someone/something over to benifit it, as does every human.

Dont know about you guys, but im pretty sure there are a million otherthings that make me loose sleep at night.... Things like this arent one of them. Ignorance is bliss.

[SeanDub]

Personal attacks would refer to name calling or shit talkin an individual not the issue at hand.

[hek1620]

oxer well put. but i think ur intrest in the matter would differ greatly had this gone on in melbourne. dont u think? this is not a personal attack.

[Oxer]

To be honest, it wouldnt happen here.

Australia holds no global power, sure we have resources, but they arent in as great a demand.

And if the government were behind it, well, they wouldnt have done anything like thay, they just slap us with more taxes and that keeps them happy.

In Australia people see through the bullshit, and there is a majority like me, who go to work, pay my taxes, come home, repeat.

You yanks on the otherhand......



nuff said.