2008 Slammed Jeep Patriot

[mikey G]

Im so happy you're bagging the jeep. New thread title. "Patriot Air".

[Creation]

Vu4 accuair elevel
VIAIR 91028 X2
VIAIR 444c Compressors X2
Aero sport bags X2
Air house 2 X2
3/8th line
1/4 SMC Water Trap X2

And a ton of fittings.

[Oh Damn, it's Sam]

Make sure you have two tank drains and a safety valve in there.

[Creation]

Make sure you have two tank drains and a safety valve in there.

Would those be included in the "tank fitting package"? I'm also stuck on which style fittings to run.

[Oh Damn, it's Sam]

I don't believe Bag Riders includes a safety valve in their packages, if that's who you're getting your stuff from. Bag Riders considers the Schrader inflation valve they include to be the tank drain, but I have never particularly liked that idea. In any case, since you're running twin tanks, you need a drain at the bottom of each.

What do you mean by which style fittings?

[Creation]

I don't believe Bag Riders includes a safety valve in their packages, if that's who you're getting your stuff from. Bag Riders considers the Schrader inflation valve they include to be the tank drain, but I have never particularly liked that idea. In any case, since you're running twin tanks, you need a drain at the bottom of each.

What do you mean by which style fittings?

I'm not 100% set on purchasing everything through BR. I seem to find cheaper prices everywhere else, specifically from one shop on amazon. I know they price match, but I'm not sure if it's even worth the hassle of sending them 50+ links and asking for them to price match when I could just buy from the others.

By fittings I mean like NPT, FNPT, there's a few more I keep seeing and I'm just like uhhhhhh

[Oh Damn, it's Sam]

Keep in mind a lot of the systems on Amazon aren't half as complete as what Bag Riders offers. You get a LOT for your money from those guys.

NPT is the threaded style fitting you'll be using, and often times parts are just listed as NPT of whatever size. More specifically, FNPT is female, MNPT is male. MNPT threads into FNPT. FNPT needs a NPT pipe nipple to connect to FNPT, and two MNPTs can be connected with an NPT bushing. It's a lot more straightforward than it sounds.

[Creation]

Keep in mind a lot of the systems on Amazon aren't half as complete as what Bag Riders offers. You get a LOT for your money from those guys.

NPT is the threaded style fitting you'll be using, and often times parts are just listed as NPT, which is find so long as they're the size you need or you can adapt. More specifically, FNPT is female, MNPT is male. MNPT threads into FNPT. FNPT needs a NPT pipe nipple to connect to FNPT, and two MNPTs can be connected with an NPT bushing. It's a lot more straightforward than it sounds.

That's good to know about the amazon shops, I wasn't aware.

And now the fitting makes much more sense. Are flow controls recommended? And is the use just for controlling the air down speed?

[Oh Damn, it's Sam]

I would only bother with flow controls if you feel you need them after installation. I wanted them on mine because my car's weight balance is very front-heavy, and I wanted the car to air up and down perfectly evenly and fairly slowly. The only thing they do is limit the air flow rate through the lines - there are no other advantages, and if you can avoid them, that's a bunch of failure points eliminated, not to mention about $100 worth of fittings.

If you feel you need flow controls after the fact, they're easy to install inline on the lines that run to your bags.

[Creation]

I would only bother with flow controls if you feel you need them after installation. I wanted them on mine because my car's weight balance is very front-heavy, and I wanted the car to air up and down perfectly evenly and fairly slowly.

If you feel you need flow controls after the fact, they're easy to install inline on the lines that run to your bags.

Thank you. I lost access to the mac I was using so I guess I'm going to buy a whiteboard and draw all this out or something blown up.

[Oh Damn, it's Sam]

Graph paper is a good place to start too. Don't feel like you have to actually draw all the parts or do anything to scale. A generic flowchart is just as good for system planning as anything fancy.

[Creation]

Graph paper is a good place to start too. Don't feel like you have to actually draw all the parts or do anything to scale. A generic flowchart is just as good for system planning as anything fancy.

I understand. I'm extremely visual, so I feel like once I write everything out it'll make lots more sense. Right now I'm just so overwhelmed with the process.

[Creation]

I'm just going to throw a few things out and see how it goes. I'm torn between going one tank 5-7 gallons or two tanks 2.5-3 each.
Space where I've decided the setup will go, I'll grind down the post in the middle when the time comes. I just hope this the false floor will close!



One tank idea:


Two Tank idea:

[Oh Damn, it's Sam]

Are you going to display the components, or do you want them hidden?

You might consider the Air Lift Pancake Tank for that location: http://bagriders.com/modlab/products...CAKE-TANK.html

[Creation]

Are you going to display the components, or do you want them hidden?

You might consider the Air Lift Pancake Tank for that location: http://bagriders.com/modlab/products...CAKE-TANK.html

Part of me wants hidden, while the other part want's to clean the rear hatch area up and make it "showy". I think for the time being, I'd rather get it in there and tucked away, and once I get the car to another level, go back and start doing hardlines, and clean up the rear end to get that covered. My rear plastics are beat up really bad, and that awkward cutout from when I was 16 and felt like that was a great idea to install a subwoofer behind that panel (which blew) so that's a little more than I can handle money wise right now.

The pancake tank may actually be a good call, I'm worried with a circular tank the false floor is not going to be able to close.
My concern is nowhere it lists it's max PSI.