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Definitely don't worry about it if it isn't hitting. When you get your roller in you should be able to widen the fenders enough to fit the +0 offset. I posted earlier about my setup (16x8.25 +0). Also you may need to check the aftermarket camber arms, the adjustments up top put it closer to the inner fender than stock and cause them to hit hard on bumps. I had stock A arms on mine and had enough natural camber for the wheels to fit inside the fenders.
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I was going to answer your front lip question but it seems like you got that all sorted out.
The MK3 golf front lip fits perfectly

You can them off of ebay for dirt cheap.
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 93-99 VW GOLF/JETTA MK3 EURO VR6 FRONT BUMPER DEEP LIP SPOILER at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
So that's one option.
So far, you're making great progress, keep up the good work!
Edit: I know that's a hatch but it'll still fit.sigpic
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i grinded some of my knuckle off still not enough but definitely better.Originally posted by 244Brick View PostIf it isn't hitting don't worry about it. if it does grind it off
thanks man, its still parked inside the shop and blocked off so cant really get normal shots of it but as soon as it starts sweepin streets ill photo bomb this forum.Originally posted by SoLOwX3 View PostFull of win! Side and rear shot asap!
Yeah the roller did help out alot i could go more low with enough space to clear the fenders and not rub, "thank goodness for rollersOriginally posted by fifty3bags View PostDefinitely don't worry about it if it isn't hitting. When you get your roller in you should be able to widen the fenders enough to fit the +0 offset. I posted earlier about my setup (16x8.25 +0). Also you may need to check the aftermarket camber arms, the adjustments up top put it closer to the inner fender than stock and cause them to hit hard on bumps. I had stock A arms on mine and had enough natural camber for the wheels to fit inside the fenders.
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only problem is that i have so much angle that my knuckle is almost touching my coilover in the front, i did some grinding but still close, so not sure what the results will be when i start driving
I actually looked into the mk3 lip but decided to try out the cs front lip.Originally posted by Chuckdee View PostI was going to answer your front lip question but it seems like you got that all sorted out.
The MK3 golf front lip fits perfectly

You can them off of ebay for dirt cheap.
So that's one option.
So far, you're making great progress, keep up the good work!
Edit: I know that's a hatch but it'll still fit.
Thanks im making progress slowly but eventually ill have it rolling within a few weeks i hope.
1990 Honda Civic Wagon - SOLD
1997 BMW 318i Vert
1992 Mercedes Benz 300e - SOLD
1970 Mercedes Benz 250
1976 Volvo 242DL
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As you guys know my concern was that my front knuckles started rubbing against camber arm, you could kinda see in the picture down below that theirs a rub mark in the arm. Too much angle and lots of low is the cause most likely. I took the knuckles off and started grinding off the spots where they were way to close.
Also got my eastwood roller in today, rolled my both front and rear on the left side
i love this roller magic
Got a few more snaps of the car with my rolled fender and quarter panel for whoever is interested in the progress.
Btw my exhaust pipe is barely clearing ground i hope i dont tear the thing off somewhere






1990 Honda Civic Wagon - SOLD
1997 BMW 318i Vert
1992 Mercedes Benz 300e - SOLD
1970 Mercedes Benz 250
1976 Volvo 242DL
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Thanks man, that ef hatch you got looks reall good and that fitment is on point.Originally posted by M.Doban View PostI've always wanted a wagon. Yours looks like it's coming along pretty nicely!
Must admit the wagons from the 90s look retro cool finally got my hands on one and doin things to it.Last edited by Dano; 02-02-2014, 10:31 AM.
1990 Honda Civic Wagon - SOLD
1997 BMW 318i Vert
1992 Mercedes Benz 300e - SOLD
1970 Mercedes Benz 250
1976 Volvo 242DL
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dooooo eeeeetOriginally posted by Dano View PostSo I got this Benz im thinking about already
After my wagon is wrapped up I might get started with these german
EDIT: the civic's looking fresh too, didn't want to leave it out
Last edited by Oh Damn, it's Sam; 02-02-2014, 12:36 PM.
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Thanks man appreciate the love wagon is getting to the final touches.Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Postdooooo eeeeet
EDIT: the civic's looking fresh too, didn't want to leave it out
I really want to start my 300e Benz build, but I cant figure out this issue im having with it. Was wondering if you might know better then me because im new to the mercedes, and got no clue what im dealing with. So my benz is a 92 straight 6 3.0 gas eater, heard some lots of good things about these motors. But im having a problem with my idling, the benz starts right up when its cold drives fine for about 10-15 mins then when it warms up it just goes to shit, starts dying and idles. I did alot of research and lots of trouble shooting on it no luck. Thought you might know whats going on with it
Wagons are awkwardly cool lookin, must admit.Originally posted by C.Johnston View Postoh man id kill for a wagovan
Sure is manOriginally posted by Queef|Chief View PostWagon is always the right choice

1990 Honda Civic Wagon - SOLD
1997 BMW 318i Vert
1992 Mercedes Benz 300e - SOLD
1970 Mercedes Benz 250
1976 Volvo 242DL
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I'll admit I don't know tons about the gassers, but the first places I'd look are the OVP relay and the IACV. On the latter, if it sticks open, it can cause stalling. You can clean it with some carb cleaner, and I think you'll be surprised at how much crap is stuck in it. As for the OVP, most seem to consider them to be wear parts, and it seems like on the gassers just about everything related to drivability is affected by an OVP failure.Originally posted by Dano View PostI really want to start my 300e Benz build, but I cant figure out this issue im having with it. Was wondering if you might know better then me because im new to the mercedes, and got no clue what im dealing with. So my benz is a 92 straight 6 3.0 gas eater, heard some lots of good things about these motors. But im having a problem with my idling, the benz starts right up when its cold drives fine for about 10-15 mins then when it warms up it just goes to shit, starts dying and idles. I did alot of research and lots of trouble shooting on it no luck. Thought you might know whats going on with it
Also, 1992 is the very first year of the biodegradable wiring harnesses. If your engine harness is original, it WILL go bad and require replacement, if it hasn't already. There's a date code stamped somewhere on the harness, but I'm not sure where on an M103, so check around for crispy insulation on the harness. If you can find the date code, you want anything after 1997, IIRC. If your harness is original, they can cause all kinds of drivability issues due to shorting wires.
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Thanks for the info man highly appreciated, because im a noob to the benz lifeOriginally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View PostI'll admit I don't know tons about the gassers, but the first places I'd look are the OVP relay and the IACV. On the latter, if it sticks open, it can cause stalling. You can clean it with some carb cleaner, and I think you'll be surprised at how much crap is stuck in it. As for the OVP, most seem to consider them to be wear parts, and it seems like on the gassers just about everything related to drivability is affected by an OVP failure.
Also, 1992 is the very first year of the biodegradable wiring harnesses. If your engine harness is original, it WILL go bad and require replacement, if it hasn't already. There's a date code stamped somewhere on the harness, but I'm not sure where on an M103, so check around for crispy insulation on the harness. If you can find the date code, you want anything after 1997, IIRC. If your harness is original, they can cause all kinds of drivability issues due to shorting wires.
lots of learning to go and adapting.
Ill check my OVP and IACV, but I went through a lot of clean already with my throttle body and sensors, also my fuel lines, replaced my fuel filter, because I have no idea how long its been sitting around dead.
And I heard about those wiring harnesses but didn't really take it seriously, so I might even have a bad harness possibly. Ill check it out also when ill be getting some time on hand. They expensive to get brand new? Funny part is that my buddies 94 420e has the same issue

1990 Honda Civic Wagon - SOLD
1997 BMW 318i Vert
1992 Mercedes Benz 300e - SOLD
1970 Mercedes Benz 250
1976 Volvo 242DL
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You know, upon further research, I'm not sure whether yours has the bad insulation or not. Some say that the issue doesn't apply to the M103, though others say anything from '92 'til '97 is affected. As usual, the Mercedes world thinks it knows tons and winds up contradicting itself...Originally posted by Dano View PostAnd I heard about those wiring harnesses but didn't really take it seriously, so I might even have a bad harness possibly. Ill check it out also when ill be getting some time on hand. They expensive to get brand new? Funny part is that my buddies 94 420e has the same issue
Since '90-'93 were transitional years, in reality, your car could have either the M103 or the M104, though the latter is usually marked with a badge on the back reading 300E-24 to signify the 24-valve M104 engine. I'd have to see under the hood to be sure which of the two you've got. In either case, I'd strip a little wire loom back somewhere near the engine block or exhaust manifold and see what's going on in there.
The harness is unfortunately not inexpensive: it's $800 to $1000 on the couple of parts sites I've seen, but people can and do rebuild them themselves - a time-consuming job to be sure, but doable. Apparently the harness for your buddy's '94 is a bit less expensive.
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wagon on the road
Havent been on here in a long time, well these are the latest updates on the wagon build for who ever is interested in the progress.
Was really busy the past 3 months with everything besides my project so time finally came to wrap it up and get her running
Their are a few things that i need to add like rear camber kits just the gap that i rolled needs to be closed up in the rear.
Also mounted the new lip which makes it look better in my opinion
So here are a few shots of my phone i took last week.



1990 Honda Civic Wagon - SOLD
1997 BMW 318i Vert
1992 Mercedes Benz 300e - SOLD
1970 Mercedes Benz 250
1976 Volvo 242DL
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