Stance Rant

[aar0n.]

Too much talk of "scene" this and "scene" that. I do what I want and how I want to build my car. Fuck scenes and trying to what's trendy and cool. Just do what you want and for yourself

[Kielan]

What if its the individuality scene?

Damn that's gunna screw with some people's heads.

[aar0n.]

What if its the individuality scene?

Damn that's gunna screw with some people's heads.

Not bad man, not bad

[Streetlight]

I have seen the worst paint on a 91 Civic SI go to butter smooth because of some elbow grease. Put some effort into your cars guys, it will repay you down the line.

this was me, I offer detailing in the tristate, just ask ef9kid or prodigee, my work is legit with like twenty "t"s haha.

But on another note, yea I run reps, but im looking for new wheels to replace my current ones, cause I don't like the idea or w/e aka I just don't like the wheels. Everything else on my car was $$$$, trying to not cheap out on wheels, I just wanna find the right ones.

[kramerbuccs24]

I can't wait till the fad part of this passes. For 99% of people this is the new fad, and its diluted the scene. I keep hearing people bitching about not having enough money for real wheels, then they spend $1K on reps. You could have got some real wheels and put some elbow grease into them for that much money. You just got to know what the fuck your doing.

Its part of the reason why I'm on the forums a lot less. It was cool when we had less than 1K members and all the cars (or most) were quality. Now its a bunch of "yo check my miata/civic/etc on sport max's" and shit like that. Fuck that garbage.

Hunting for deal FTW, just like my RSs (which by the way are on Yokos not Ling Longs)

I'm WELL past the point of trying to convince people to buy "real" wheels. All the shitty cars out there just make the nice cars look nicer and to the average bystander they're still idiots with stupid-low cars . The people who know what's up know what's up, hopefully the "others" will catch on quick or fuck off.

[Sceanzo]

Thanks for the kind words guys.


I dig this shit so much because all makes and models can come together and have something in common finally.

I drive a Neon SRT-4. It might be the most ***** vehicle on the road. Import guys **** me because its a domestic. Domestic guys **** me because its not a V8. Its a lose lose situation.

There are VERY few SRTs that are trying to stance right now. Me being one of them. I lurked this website for a while before I joined. I had to post because this was one of the main reasons I got out of hondas. People were just ****** on that guy that was trying to ball on a budget (yours truely). Being in college and supporting myself, I have very few extra dollars to go out and buy me some BBS' to slam on.


Guys if you build the car to your liking, and you happen to have good taste, who cares how you did it or how much it cost. Stance = Win.

[camberwears]

Guys if you build the car to your liking, and you happen to have good taste, who cares how you did it or how much it cost. Stance = Win.

very true.

[shanemono4]

definitely wasn't expecting a thread like this to pop up on this site, it's pretty chill for the most part. I'm just a lurker, but I'm a little different than most. At one point I had oem STi BBS (Gasp, real wheels) on my car with 38mm conversion spacers. I ***** the setup. I took the "Hey, I don't want fake wheels" route and sourced some OEM's and put "elbow grease" into them. They looked pretty good, and people enjoyed them, but it just wasn't doing it for me. I was kicking myself in the face for trading my drag dr-31 (emotion reps in 17x9 +28) for them. I had a nice, wide wheel, brand new with warranty, and I traded them just so I could say I had bbs's.

But then again, that just shows my mentality. I'm not an elitist by any means, I'm here because I put my car on the ground and found a site where others do the same. I don't think seandub is an elitist either, read his signature (lol) just goes to show the guy can have a good laugh and appreciate what he has so much that the opinions from others doesn't phase him. It's a very looked down on culture, it really is, but I've got the desire to do it, regardless of what others say. That's what I think brings everybody together on this site.

All I'm trying to say is, i'm half and half in this argument here. I do agree that everybody trying to be original, yet doing the same thing as everybody else on the internet doesn't really work out. Sure, it may make them somewhat original locally, but not here. I don't agree with the replica wheel **** though. There's soo many circumstances that can surround your wheel choice, it's just not worth arguing about. I'll look at the entire car, accept it for what it's done, and determine how I feel about it before I'll completely disregard a vehicle on "fakes."

[PDubbs20AE]

Read the thread and just had to post up. Although I'm pretty new here, I've got some posts here and there, mostly coming through Vortex. I really do agree with nearly everything that was said in the OP, and how the "bandwagon-ers" somehow leave a blemish on the "scene".

For one thing, those who really don't care about stance, and are only here for the time being will move on to the next fad. Considering I am mostly familiar with the Euro scene, if you go to a car show over in Deutschland anymore, you see much less clean Euro styling and way more DTM stuff flying around. Whether or not you like that particular style, the clean euro image that was a fad has moved into something else which is a fad. It always happens, especially outside of cars as well, just like fashion.

All I know is that since a started driving, what really made me giddy was seeing a clean car with stance. It didn't matter what brand, where it was made, or what styling it had, as long as the lines flowed and the wheels sat just right, it was killer. I remember when many cars first hit the market and I downright ***** them, but someone was willing to stance it and all of a sudden it was sick.

I admit there are guys around me that would attempt to rust a hood on something new and it would probably look like total trash but they are only doing it because it is the cool thing to do. This reminds me of all the crazy body kits that used to be running around my town, but now I see a lot more stance "attempts" going on. It just happens to be how things go, but what it really comes down to is knowing that you are happy with what you drive and how it looks. If you don't like it, then no one else's opinion will make you change your feelings. This is why I have a set of BBS Aero IIs, but I just don't dig them on my TT, just doesn't fit the style I want.

As for the reps vs. real wheel debate, well I remember when I was younger and I could only buy what I could afford so reps were it. Now I am a self proclaimed BBS whore (Aero IIs, Style 5s, and RFs all within the past 7 months!) and I have to say that while reps seem pleasing to the eye in look vs. price, I think holding out for the genuine article is better in the end. Yes, it is supporting the company who made it and not someone who if producing a "close-enough" replica and undercutting the original artists, engineers, and marketing teams, but you also have a bit more of an attachment to your wheels. Who cares if you curb up a $150 wheel? I really care if I curb up a $600 dollar wheel, so you protect your investment a bit better by taking better care of it.

Totally off topic, I'm glad to see that everyone from all different motoring backgrounds can come together to appreciate fine looking cars, regardless of who makes them! Stanceworks FTW.

[BreakMyWallet]

we should make a new forum.

"cleanworks"

but you have to post up your car and be accepted by a panel. bahaha

[Steve]

Sean, I agree but sometimes I think you put too much stress on the monetary side of things. A nicely stanced car does not HAVE TO cost a lot of money, but on occasion you make it seem like someone needs a $3000 set of 3 piece wheels just to have something good looking(though i could just be incorrectly reading what you say). I do agree that half assing a lot of stuff/rusting everything is lame, though.

[Kielan]

@ Streetlight

The truth finally comes out haha, I kid we have had this talk before haha.

But yeah WAY OT but this kid can make the crappiest paint look and feel brand new. Definitely amazing work.

[kramerbuccs24]

we should make a new forum.

"cleanworks"

but you have to post up your car and be accepted by a panel. bahaha

Kinda like "ziptied" for drifting, I like the idea.

@ Streetlight

The truth finally comes out haha, I kid we have had this talk before haha.

But yeah WAY OT but this kid can make the crappiest paint look and feel brand new. Definitely amazing work.

Good detailers are known to do that

[Kielan]

Steve, I don't think that's what he is saying at all, he is just saying that people should look around, and if they really want wheels, get original, buy some OEM wheels off craigslist and run those with adapters for the same price as the reps you were gunna get. I mean he is on sawblades which we all know are really cheap to buy, but he put his own spin on them, and really I think that his car is the best representation of sawblades done right out there.

[SeanDub]

Sean, I agree but sometimes I think you put too much stress on the monetary side of things. A nicely stanced car does not HAVE TO cost a lot of money, but on occasion you make it seem like someone needs a $3000 set of 3 piece wheels just to have something good looking(though i could just be incorrectly reading what you say). I do agree that half assing a lot of stuff/rusting everything is lame, though.

I'm rollin on 90's Corvette wheels......