raw/dry/durty denim

[Kielan]

Wait was that directed at me or at pussies?

Whatever you want it to be.

I don't buywear them, because spending $100+ on a pair of jeans is fucking retarded.

False.

[Dudermagee]

Whatever you want it to be.

False.

When you can buy 3-4 pairs in exactly the same cut and color, then yes it is retarded.

[Kielan]

When you can buy 3-4 pairs in exactly the same cut and color, then yes it is retarded.

No, its not.

Would you buy replica wheels because they looked the same and were 1/4 of the price?

[Dudermagee]

No, its not.

Would you buy replica wheels because they looked the same and were 1/4 of the price?

:facepalm
Levi's aren't replicas, and they are a quarter of the price.
And thats just one brand name off the top of my head.
Face it, you're buying them because of the name and the fact that its just plain expensive.
It has almost nothing to do with quality.

I have a pair of silvertab jeans I got about 3-4 years ago, I wear them about 2-3 times a week and guess what? They are still in perfectly good condition! Oh and that pretty much goes the same for every pair of jeans I've ever owned.
There is no magic way to using denim, fucking 5 year old children in a foreign county can figure it out so its not exactly as difficult or as dangerous as wheel development.

[Kielan]

:facepalm
Levi's aren't replicas, and they are a quarter of the price.
And thats just one brand name off the top of my head.
Face it, you're buying them because of the name and the fact that its just plain expensive.
It has almost nothing to do with quality.

I have a pair of silvertab jeans I got about 3-4 years ago, I wear them about 2-3 times a week and guess what? They are still in perfectly good condition! Oh and that pretty much goes the same for every pair of jeans I've ever owned.
There is no magic way to using denim, fucking 5 year old children in a foreign county can figure it out so its not exactly as difficult or as dangerous as wheel development.

You do realize that Levi's raw denim is $178?

If you don't understand it that's fine, but raw denim and washed denim are not the same at all. There is a reason that raw costs more than washed.

[Dudermagee]

You do realize that Levi's raw denim is $178?

If you don't understand it that's fine, but raw denim and washed denim are not the same at all. There is a reason that raw costs more than washed.

Hipster fee

[Kielan]

Hipster fee

Dudeman, with all due respect, there is no reason for you to be in this thread.

[firelizard3]

Not really one for expensive jeans, kinda defeats the purpose of getting jeans IMO.

Raw denim is absolutely priced high as a hipster fee. If people find they like the fit of a particular model, and don't mind the price, good for them. This thread is a good idea, for that. But people who are just fine with the comfy pair of washed denims they have don't give a shit about how much better you are than them because your jeans faded naturally.

[Kielan]

Raw denim is absolutely priced high as a hipster fee. If people find they like the fit of a particular model, and don't mind the price, good for them. This thread is a good idea, for that. But people who are just fine with the comfy pair of washed denims they have don't give a shit about how much better you are than them because your jeans faded naturally.

Before I tried it and saw what it was all about..

This thread is all about raw denim, its not about washed denim. If there were a general denim thread then sure I don't disagree. But that's not what this thread is about.

I own 3 pairs of non-selvedge denim, and I don't like the feel or fit of them nearly as much, as I do my selvedge. There is a lot more to raw denim than if they faded naturally or not, to me that doesn't even matter. Its how they break in and fit to me, and ultimately end up being more comfortable than any other pair of washed denim.

I'm not saying you have to buy raw denim either. Shit if you find a cut that you like at a good price go with it for sure, hell once I found 511s, I didn't buy anything else, and then I jumped at a 50% deal on my selvedge 511s, and from there I never looked back.

And btw you can get Unbranded (which is raw selvedge) for $78, proving you don't need to spend a shit load on good quality denim.

[Dudermagee]

Dudeman, with all due respect, there is no reason for you to be in this thread.

Sure there is, i was bored

[firelizard3]

Before I tried it and saw what it was all about..

This thread is all about raw denim, its not about washed denim. If there were a general denim thread then sure I don't disagree. But that's not what this thread is about.

I own 3 pairs of non-selvedge denim, and I don't like the feel or fit of them nearly as much, as I do my selvedge. There is a lot more to raw denim than if they faded naturally or not, to me that doesn't even matter. Its how they break in and fit to me, and ultimately end up being more comfortable than any other pair of washed denim.

I'm not saying you have to buy raw denim either. Shit if you find a cut that you like at a good price go with it for sure, hell once I found 511s, I didn't buy anything else, and then I jumped at a 50% deal on my selvedge 511s, and from there I never looked back.

And btw you can get Unbranded (which is raw selvedge) for $78, proving you don't need to spend a shit load on good quality denim.

That's totally fine too, like I said, I have nothing against this thread. I came in here to check out what you guys had to say about raw denim.

I want to take this opportunity though, to point out that selvedge and raw are not the same thing. Although they are often together (selvedge being raw, raw being selvedge). Selvedge is expensive as a result of the manufacturing method being less efficient and less common. Non-selvedge denim could be sold raw. I don't know if this is the case anywhere though.

I wouldn't confuse archaic production methods with good quality though, just as a grain of salt. Example being Levi's, who produce high quality jeans both washed, and untreated selvedge.

[soab]

No, its not.

Would you buy replica wheels because they looked the same and were 1/4 of the price?

Knew that was comin

[Kielan]

That's totally fine too, like I said, I have nothing against this thread. I came in here to check out what you guys had to say about raw denim.

I want to take this opportunity though, to point out that selvedge and raw are not the same thing. Although they are often together (selvedge being raw, raw being selvedge). Selvedge is expensive as a result of the manufacturing method being less efficient and less common. Non-selvedge denim could be sold raw. I don't know if this is the case anywhere though.

I wouldn't confuse archaic production methods with good quality though, just as a grain of salt. Example being Levi's, who produce high quality jeans both washed, and untreated selvedge.

I know selvedge =/= raw and raw =/= selvedge. The two just typically go hand in hand. Shit my 511s selvedge are washed, but they are far more rigid than any other pair of washed denim I have ever had.

[Francois Dillinger]

The raw =/= selvedge has been explained multiple times in this thread.

[Kielan]

The raw =/= selvedge has been explained multiple times in this thread.

Also true.