What does "Stanced" mean to you?

[aar0n.]

It just seems people are putting their wheels outside the fenders to do it nowadays. Some of the older mk1/mk2 cars it looks right on cause of the overall look of the car.
But to have to run 16s, so your wheels and tires are so small that you can be fake low, just kills it.
Id much rather see a mk4/3 on 18s, at the same height of the 16 guys, with correct fitment, becuase it shows workmanship, dedication, time.

i can slap some shit thats too wide on a car in an hour if i wanted to.
So i think it goes more into workmanship and finesse more than anything. ive seen one VW on here that had poke i liked. the rest are just like, " Hey im gonna be cooler htan you and poke 2" more on a stock body".

MKI and MKII VWs belong on nothing bigger than a 16" (even smaller for a MKI) simply bc the cars are small and anything bigger looks completely out of place on the small fenders and wheel wells. A MK3 on 18s would just look stupid, again, bc of the size of the wheel wells. Any MK4 on 16s with small tires, stretch, poke, etc. will look like shit as the wheel wells are too big for such a tiny wheel. This all falls under part of what makes or breaks a car's stance, as wheel diameters proportional to the car size play a big part in the overall look.

Mainly the fact, we do it with 18/19/20s while you guys poke on 15/16/17 and most vip (i only say VIP, becuase it is easilly associated with) are the same height as you guys.

Bigger cars = Bigger wheel wells = Bigger wheels to look proportional

It has nothing to do with car height

My car has poke all around but all of the tire tread easily tucks under the fenders, does that make my car have mexi-poke?

[Stephen]

Subjective thread is subjective

[Han]

I encourage a healthy debate, but you can't explain/prove what "stance" is. You can only "explain" it in your own PERSONAL TASTE. There is no right or wrong. You don't have to like all of it. It's all based on opinions.

[Stephen]

Okay, but one style is one way, and one is the other. i could put 19s on my e30, but it wont look good. Old school euro cars in general are alot smaller, and thats what wheels we have available.

VIP style is flush, Other styles arent

[BLKonBLK98]

Im not convinced. Perhaps we should start a new thread, but since flush is so easy to define, it seems that a tasteful well executed poke would be harder because you have infinite combos.

infinite number of combos = infinite number of solutions

you can't really define "tasteful" when talking about something that deals only with personal taste.

it's not a big deal to me, just thought i'd speak on it. whatever floats your boat homie.

[Han]

I don't think it's particularly fair to compare different platforms. ...Which brings me to me saying again that stance isn't one formula or one "set" stance that can be achieved. It's the whole package and everything is incorporated.

[FreshLikeSushi]

Im not convinced. Perhaps we should start a new thread, but since flush is so easy to define, it seems that a tasteful well executed poke would be harder because you have infinite combos.

Well, i respectfully disagree here as well.
There are TONS of combos for flush.
Small strech, Mid strech, extreme strech (note my y33 on the main page)
Stock camber specs, mild camber, aggresive camber, extreme camber (note my y33)
Wider wheels with higher offsets, narrower wheels with lower offset,

Mainly the fact, we do it with 18/19/20s while you guys poke on 15/16/17 and most vip (i only say VIP, becuase it is easilly associated with) are the same height as you guys.

[Han]

hit the nail on the head.
While i do like poke in some instances. There still isnt an intelligent explanation for excessive poke. I can explain flush, and camber (dont be jealous VW guys ) but you cant explain poke.

I will have both if you get me those parts. (That is my GS in front of my GTI).

[FreshLikeSushi]

hit the nail on the head.
While i do like poke in some instances. There still isnt an intelligent explanation for excessive poke. I can explain flush, and camber (dont be jealous VW guys ) but you cant explain poke.

[Han]

The thread is fine. It's what the whole subject is about. Just don't turn it into a whole bashing, name calling, and "my shit is better than your shit" immature child-syndrome.

[Stephen]

Im not convinced. Perhaps we should start a new thread, but since flush is so easy to define, it seems that a tasteful well executed poke would be harder because you have infinite combos.

[BLKonBLK98]

It takes just as much worksmanship, dedication, and time to pull off a poke stance. You still do all the mm math and tire size research. You still search for the perfect width wheels or spend hours trying to find the right size wheel lips. It's not different than trying to fit a flush setup.

i have to respectfully disagree. if we're too far off track here lmk and we can kill the conversation or start a new thread.

the difference, imo, is flush is only 1 very small range of fitment (a couple mm's) vs. poke which is anything outward of that.

now i can dig that you may have a specific amount of poke you are trying to achieve but it's a target with no bullseye. flush can only be flush, anything else is tuck or poke.

fyi, i'm not just jumping in to back up my club member. i definitely have my own view on this. i'm not a fan of poke personally (i prefer flush or even tuck) but i have no problem with someone who does like it. to each their own.

[Han]

Well, to be fair, a ton of cars like a VW MK4 has no IRS or double wishbone up front so we cannot "camber" and "tuck" into the fenders when hitting bumps. Even though I don't really "care" that I'm destroying my fender paint, it will happen if I want to keep the current stance that I LOVE on my car. It's a give and take and I'm perfectly fine with burning paint IF it lets me achieve the static stance on my car.

Critique my car if you'd like. My rear wheels poke quite a bit and I wouldn't have it any other way:

[BLKonBLK98]

the word "stanced", imo, does nothing more than identify you as part of the new trend.

"stance", on the other hand, generally refers to the relationship of the car to the ground (i.e. low, raked). it is undescriptive in it's solitary form but can modified with an adjective (i.e. low, raked stance) and take many aestethic aspects into account (i.e. wheel fitment, abstract: aggressive stance).

[Rally]

Id much rather see a mk4/3 on 18s, at the same height of the 16 guys, with correct fitment, becuase it shows workmanship, dedication, time.
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It takes just as much worksmanship, dedication, and time to pull off a poke stance. You still do all the mm math and tire size research. You still search for the perfect width wheels or spend hours trying to find the right size wheel lips. It's not different than trying to fit a flush setup.