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  • #16
    great choice in wheels, i have no other input and nothing helpful to say, carry on
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    • #17
      Originally posted by DER E30 View Post
      Do you know how much the axle travels side to side during suspension movement?

      You might have to get an adjustable panhard bar or even go watts link to center the axle if it ends up pushed over to one side... Just speculating here...


      Oooh, that's a good point, I forgot those are 3-link. Down low that Panhard should be pretty flat, but it's probably worth doing a little trig to figure out how much lateral movement there's going to be, both from lowering it, and also just under normal suspension cycling once lowered.



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      • #18
        EDIT: Either the board software freaked out or somebody deleted his post.
        Last edited by Oh Damn, it's Sam; 02-11-2015, 07:00 PM.



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        • #19
          Originally posted by VR6DUBNY View Post
          By positively i meant the offset number goes up...shave a et20 wheel 5mm and it ends up et25.

          Do you know his wheel and tire specs?...he is def running a little bit of stretch and poke

          Height of the new combo depends on rolling diameter of tire choice.
          Ya i knew what you meant when shaving the pad , and i was planning on running a stretch. his specs are 255/35 I'm assuming all around*
          specs 20x10.5 +30 all around

          Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Post
          Concur with the above, shaving backpads brings the wheel inboard with a higher offset. Don't shave the backpad unless you absolutely have to - there are better ways to change the offset that don't permanently alter the face of the wheel.

          IIRC, 18" GT wheels are 8" in width.

          Also, keep in mind that VS-KFs sometimes have lips and barrels that are sized on the 1/4" and 3/4", rather than half or whole inches. See also this whole bidniss over hurr.
          He's right with the width of stocks ^
          Thanks for link

          Originally posted by DER E30 View Post
          http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Tire-Size-Calculator
          This can help with picking tire sizes, getting diameter correct-ish and such.

          The outer and inner poke are different but BOTH important! Too much inner poke and the wheels hit the struts or other things inside the wheelwell. Obviously outer poke is the looks part.

          If you found pics of that mustang somewhere, ask the owner about the wheels? Probably faster than math.

          Why not bolt the wheels you have to teh car and see??? Test fitting is pretty easy and not all cars are exactly the same and personal preferences are key here also. What you think looks awesome in your head might be less awesome in person.

          Something about the mustang is that with a solid axle I'd think you'd have to be dead on with your math as you can't just add more camber to fix small errors in offsets...
          I'd say test fit and go from there.
          My cars in the shop right now... So no test fitting as of today or the next few days.. But ill give it try when she's home. But i know the specs in the pics above, i was just trying to match those specs as close as possible. Theres really not many builds to go off for mustangs, atleast ones that are easily googled..


          Originally posted by DER E30 View Post
          True dat!

          Do you know how much the axle travels side to side during suspension movement?

          You might have to get an adjustable panhard bar or even go watts link to center the axle if it ends up pushed over to one side... Just speculating here...
          I don't know how much it travels side to side but i was planning on getting the pan bar with other mods also, bump steer kits, camber/caster plates, all that good stuff.

          Originally posted by Shaun708 View Post
          great choice in wheels, i have no other input and nothing helpful to say, carry on
          Thanks buddy

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          • #20
            Originally posted by VR6DUBNY View Post
            Also what is the stock width of your wheels

            Found the size of the black mustang....20x10.5 et30 with 255/35/20's

            Based on that you have 40mm of more lip and 24mm of inner clearance

            So you could run a 1" larger barrel and a 1.5" larger lip. Or any combination of the 2.

            1.5 larger lip = 20x9.5 et19
            1.5 larger lip + 1" larger barrel = 20x10.5 et31ish

            Outer lip will be 2mm more pushed in than his set up
            missed this post , thanks man!
            Those are pretty much what I'm looking for specs wise, the 20x10.5 +31ish is going to leave the clearance needed on the inside, away from the strut? and still give me poke to look semi aggressive?

            Ill continue to run the numbers to see if theres any way i can make a bigger lip size, but I'm pretty happy with 3.5" lips. Although i could have bigger lips

            If i pulled my fenders about a half inch or maybe a full inch with a roll, and stretched tires. Is there a way to run .5" - 1" bigger lips? Or is that going to effect the inner clearance majorly??

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            • #21
              Changing the lip size will not change the inner clearance. Only changing the barrel or changing how the face sits relative to the hub via shaving or spacers will affect inner clearance.



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              • #22
                Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Post
                Changing the lip size will not change the inner clearance. Only changing the barrel or changing how the face sits relative to the hub via shaving or spacers will affect inner clearance.
                Thank you

                So if i were to go off the specs VR6DUB gave, 20x10.5 +31ish, with 3.5" lips and 7" barrels. And i wanted to add another 1" to the outer lip to gain poke, would i have to just pull the fenders 1" to compensate? To obtain a wider lip with out adding conflict to the inner clearance?
                Could it be that simple?

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                • #23
                  I can't speak to how those wheels are going to fit under your car and what fender modifications you'll have to do, since a lot boils down to what your definition of "fits" is.

                  But, to put it plainly, all things being otherwise equal, 1" more lip equals 1" more lip and 1" more poke.



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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Post
                    I can't speak to how those wheels are going to fit under your car and what fender modifications you'll have to do, since a lot boils down to what your definition of "fits" is.

                    But, to put it plainly, all things being otherwise equal, 1" more lip equals 1" more lip and 1" more poke.
                    i was justing going off the specs 20x10.5 +31ish, being what "FITS". In reference to how adding on to the outer lip, effects the poke.
                    Appreciate the help man

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                    • #25
                      1" more poke relative to the black Mustang above is going to be a lot of poke. If that's the look you're up for, cool, but just be aware it might be tending into Mexiflush territory.

                      Knowing fuck all about the fifth-gen Mustang, I'll just caution you that 1" of pull is a fair bit of pull.



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                      • #26
                        The car there going on

                        The wheels


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                        • #27
                          I'm not telling you what to do, or not do...in fact I'm all about pushing the parameters of what fits.

                          However, based on what i've read in my limited research earlier tonight...and what the specs of the black mustang above are. I would not build your wheels any further than the 20x10.5 et31.

                          If you have decided at that point when you get them installed at 10.5" wide that they are too small...i'd buy a 10mm spacers and then go from there. You can always space something out...you can not bring it back in.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by VR6DUBNY View Post
                            I'm not telling you what to do, or not do...in fact I'm all about pushing the parameters of what fits.

                            However, based on what i've read in my limited research earlier tonight...and what the specs of the black mustang above are. I would not build your wheels any further than the 20x10.5 et31.

                            If you have decided at that point when you get them installed at 10.5" wide that they are too small...i'd buy a 10mm spacers and then go from there. You can always space something out...you can not bring it back in.

                            Oh I completely understand what you guys are saying. I'm just thinking of my options now, adding the 10mm spacer wouldn't be my main concern to just poke that little bit more. I was curious about a larger lip that's all, but relying on the fitment before looks obviously being the smarter choice.
                            Thank you for the help, and numbers you ran for me.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Post
                              1" more poke relative to the black Mustang above is going to be a lot of poke. If that's the look you're up for, cool, but just be aware it might be tending into Mexiflush territory.

                              Knowing fuck all about the fifth-gen Mustang, I'll just caution you that 1" of pull is a fair bit of pull.
                              Ohh ok I see what your saying with the adding one inch, adding poke plus that inch to the width. Also making it more aggressive.
                              Thanks for clarifying that up for me also! I don't kno nearly enough about the body on the 5th gens as I would like, all I know is that I have a body guy that could perform the pull for me if needed.
                              Yes I'm uneducated on my car a bit..

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by VR6DUBNY View Post
                                Also what is the stock width of your wheels

                                Found the size of the black mustang....20x10.5 et30 with 255/35/20's

                                Based on that you have 40mm of more lip and 24mm of inner clearance

                                So you could run a 1" larger barrel and a 1.5" larger lip. Or any combination of the 2.

                                1.5 larger lip = 20x9.5 et19
                                1.5 larger lip + 1" larger barrel = 20x10.5 et31ish

                                Outer lip will be 2mm more pushed in than his set up

                                Does any one know if this would clear brembo brakes?

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