MB W210 size/offset !

[Mr Ganja]

Aaaaand......I bought some Futuras today.

9x18 / 10.5x18. Can't wait to get my hands on 'em. Thank god for eBay.

I too have a W210 sedan. I would like to see how the rear 10.5's fit. if they do you justice I may have to move on up. I'm 19x 9.5 on the rears now and 19x 8.5 in the front.

post some pics once you get those on will ya?

[maKe]

Aaaaand......I bought some Futuras today.

9x18 / 10.5x18. Can't wait to get my hands on 'em. Thank god for eBay.

[maKe]

I owe you my life! These are actually my first (real) wheels, so I'm pretty confused with ET's and widths.
Now I am pretty confident about the purchase. Thanks alot, you really helped me out.

Next I need OZ hex tools so I can split them apart and polish the lips.

[wagonist]

here you go, I just took this picture for you so you can see where my wheels stand and compare that to what you are planning.

my wheels:
front: 8,5x18 et20 with 225/40/18
rear: 10x18 et19 with 255/35/18

Also note that I installed "adjustable camber bushing" to correct my rear camber back to 0 degrees (or close to it). If you are lowered similar to me and have stock camber you should have about 2 degrees of camber which equates to a few more millimeters clearance between the fender and tire.

[wagonist]

probably go with the size I mentioned above since it is only 0,5" wider then mine..

rim width doesnt really matter as much since the tire shoulder will be in the same place no matter what the rim width is as long as the ET is the same. Your is 2mm more out so I still think a 255/35 would work the best. And if you are going with 255 in back you need 225/40 to retain the same tire diameter (close to 25"), or you can go up one size by 235/40 and 265/35, but you need to pull the fender then.

Also, not all tires are equal, my SP9000 did not rub even at the lowest suspension setting, but when I got pzero nero it did rub so I had to pull the fender a little.

[maKe]

That looks dope now when it's lowered!

So 10.5" with et17 I can pretty much say it's fine atleast after rolling fenders? Any tire size recommends? 245/40 and 265/35 ?

[wagonist]

no huge ass stretch needed, look at my photo below, 225 in front with et20 and 255 in rear with et 19. I can toss a 5mm spacer in the front if I really wanted and still wouldn't rub.

[maKe]

Aaaarghh, sh*t things have happened and I had to bury the wheel idea for a while.

But now I think I found my dream set of Futuras with right size and not bad price.

Front 9x18 et 25
Rear 10.5x18 et 17

Front seems like a perfect match, but how about rear? I can't physically test the wheels so it's a blind purchase. I'm pretty sure rear needs rolling, but still...? If it's not enough it needs some huge ass stretch or negative camber.

[NELSON09]

I just bought clean 290td W210 that came with ugly 18" Oxigin 2pc looker wheels.

Contacted Claus from Felgen-Garage and asked for a set of 18" Futuras. He offered me 9x18 / 10x18 combo with offset range of ET22, ET26, ET35, ET38

I'm going to run KW variant 2 coilovers so what ET I should go for? Fender rolling is possible, and I'm looking for really flush fitment. I have no idea are those wheels gonna clear brakes & other suspension parts, so if you benzo gurus could chime in!

19x8.5 beginning et 35 (25mm spacing)
19x9.5 beginning et 32 (20mm spacing)
All four cornes have been rolled flat.
Good choice in coil overs, those are the only ones that'll get you low.

[conski]

^
No, they are fastest.


Nothing beats the feeling when you roll some thick coal on tailgaters.


But back on topic. I think I'm gonna bite the bullet and get 9x18 / 10x18 Futuras from Claus.
Got so nice quote on price so why not. Now I need teh coilovers and some camber adjustment rods for rear end.

Good choice, Futuras are so classic looking. Even better in those sizes lol

[maKe]

^
No, they are fastest.


Nothing beats the feeling when you roll some thick coal on tailgaters.


But back on topic. I think I'm gonna bite the bullet and get 9x18 / 10x18 Futuras from Claus.
Got so nice quote on price so why not. Now I need teh coilovers and some camber adjustment rods for rear end.

[P78]

damn i sold my old diesel benz too soon..

if i knew i would have made it fast instead of painstackinly sluggish slow

[conski]

606 HG is dead bolt-on after few drilled holes. You know what to drill when you compare 603 and 606 gaskets side by side. VHT copper spray sprayed on all layers "should" make it even more durable. It's proven to hold 50psi so it should be enough for most.

HX40 super is good turbo for 603. Twin scroll housing and dual wastegate setup makes that bad boy to spool really nicely. HX's need +20psi to work efficiently and can flow air to around 50-60psi. Just be extremely careful with your backpressures on diesel, and watch EGT's.

Every response I get makes me even more stoked on this project! haha

Thanks for all the info man, I really appreciate it. Once I am able to find a good 300td and start building it up I will keep you posted for sure.

[maKe]

606 HG is dead bolt-on after few drilled holes. You know what to drill when you compare 603 and 606 gaskets side by side. VHT copper spray sprayed on all layers "should" make it even more durable. It's proven to hold 50psi so it should be enough for most.

HX40 super is good turbo for 603. Twin scroll housing and dual wastegate setup makes that bad boy to spool really nicely. HX's need +20psi to work efficiently and can flow air to around 50-60psi. Just be extremely careful with your backpressures on diesel, and watch EGT's.

[conski]

Wastegated turbos are easiest and most common setup. VNT needs some electrical wizardy that costs tooooo much to make it work properly.

Stock cam is good. Just get big enough turbo to make it breath to 6k rpm's. Head is your worst enemy on 603. Needs porting, 606 metal headgasket and pretty much everything rebuilt for longevitity.

Not 100% sure but I just remembered that pistons might not work. Valve pockets are different (4valve vs 2 valve). Rods should be bolt-on and you can safely run 35psi boost with those rods. You NEED oil squirters for pistons & pins. Otherwise you can say byebye.

KKD motorsports here makes some ultra hyper quality manifolds, flanges etc. for benzes. 603 exhaust manifold is around ~$800

No need to make things more complicated, will be going with a wastegated turbo on that note lol

Was already planning on porting and lapping the valves. I am assuming the head is only a 12 valve so it shouldn't be too bad to rebuild.
How can you use a 606 metal headgasket, wouldn't it be too big since it is for a dohc?

Rods would be a good upgrade if I decided to do a full rebuild.

That seems like a good deal on a manifold but I wanna try my hand at making one first, love diy stuff. Greater sense of pride in the end product