Fender Rolling and Pulling

[G535]

Hey Tony,

ive got a 94 Corrado. Ive already rolled (flat) and flared the rear fenders but the wheels still rub slightly. Its the typical VW problem you described with the wheels moving forward when lowering the car. Anyways, would you recommend cutting out a parts of the inner lip?

Here's a pic. As you can see a hammer and dolly was used and then the rear quarters were repainted. I dont really want to respray again...any tip would be greatly appreciated!

[Tonys18t]

Thanks for all the PMs guys, sorry my mailbox was full, lol

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[Tonys18t]

Forum member Marq ... the guy is actually crazy his daily driver E39




This fitment is CRAZY, and actually how Im trying to get my daily 528 to sit. What all did this take to get the fenders that tight? I have a very similar wheel, tire, and offset Im assuming anyway ( 19x10 +9 offset 235/35 rubber ) I have a tire rack roller that santa brought me but ive been a little nervous to get started. Plus Im not gonna put it all together unrtil closer to spring so im not rushing anything. Anyways, sorry for rambeling on... Any help/info would be greatly appreciated. Im a big do it yourselfer and in the middle of Indiana so having it done by a pro is out of the question for me. Thanks in advance

This a crazy set up for daily driving for sure,
Theres a fair amount of work you need to do to get the setup perfect, Its rolling the fender, pulling it a touch, then shaving it ( in that order )
The offset has to be spot on otherwise you'll have contact on the lip with the wheel rim. if i remember we used bump stop spacers on Marq's car too.

I'm going to be getting the lend of a roller to do the rear and possibly the front arches on my E30 touring. Any advice tips etc for me?

I'll be running 16x9 wheels (possible with spacers) but will probably have something wider in future, not 100% on tires yet, have a 225/40 and 215/40 on the wheels I'd like to fit these rear and front. I've also got iX arch flares which limit how much I can roll.

From what I gather, the hump in the rear arches needs to be either cut out or flattened. I don't want the flat face of the arch rolled, will be folding the lip on the inside of this up. Other than that I'm not sure what to do, can the slanted part of the arches be pushed up/out a little without messing with the lip? Car will be going for a respray so not afraid to damage paint.

Those are big tires for a 16x9, try to stay at 205/40 if you can. Slanting the arch is possible, but you have to do it with care so as not deform the whole thing, On the rear remember to clean out the underseal that hides in the fender lip, its thick rubber like stuff that will stop you rolling the lip flat.
The hump under the arch can be ground off, its work though, lol, and you'll have seal up the area after to prevent water getting in to the hollow part of the arch you'll be left with. The iX arches can be bonded on fairly easily after you roll, a little heat will help to reshape them as needed.

you ever done a volvo 740?

Its been a while, i did a 740 wagon a few months ago, dead easy, best if you do it by hand with a hammer and dolly, the arches are not perfectly arc shaped so the roller wouldnt really be the best tool,

[manbeard]

you ever done a volvo 740?

[Jozi]

I'm going to be getting the lend of a roller to do the rear and possibly the front arches on my E30 touring. Any advice tips etc for me?

I'll be running 16x9 wheels (possible with spacers) but will probably have something wider in future, not 100% on tires yet, have a 225/40 and 215/40 on the wheels I'd like to fit these rear and front. I've also got iX arch flares which limit how much I can roll.

From what I gather, the hump in the rear arches needs to be either cut out or flattened. I don't want the flat face of the arch rolled, will be folding the lip on the inside of this up. Other than that I'm not sure what to do, can the slanted part of the arches be pushed up/out a little without messing with the lip? Car will be going for a respray so not afraid to damage paint.

[MrNiceGuy]

Forum member Marq ... the guy is actually crazy his daily driver E39




This fitment is CRAZY, and actually how Im trying to get my daily 528 to sit. What all did this take to get the fenders that tight? I have a very similar wheel, tire, and offset Im assuming anyway ( 19x10 +9 offset 235/35 rubber ) I have a tire rack roller that santa brought me but ive been a little nervous to get started. Plus Im not gonna put it all together unrtil closer to spring so im not rushing anything. Anyways, sorry for rambeling on... Any help/info would be greatly appreciated. Im a big do it yourselfer and in the middle of Indiana so having it done by a pro is out of the question for me. Thanks in advance

[Tonys18t]

sounds like a good part to have,

heres a VW Cab i worked on for a friend a few weeks ago

[deadgirls]

If you're gonna paint the car then hammer and dolly is best.

The fronts are fairly easy, the rears will take a little more doing,

Make sure you work all the way down the whole length of the fender. VWs have a habit of kicking the rear wheels forward in the arch as they are lowered. the area in the base of the fender behind the door ( kinda the 4o'clock postion ) will rub like crazy if you dont pull it.
Just take your time and get a nice curve, remember to get both sides the same before the bondo layer goes on, lol.

My buddy came up with some camber/drop plates he made at his machine shop that actually push the wheel back, I'm not sure if I'm running them or not. But thanks for the tips its greatly appreciated in something I think about daily haha

[Tonys18t]

If you're gonna paint the car then hammer and dolly is best.

The fronts are fairly easy, the rears will take a little more doing,

Make sure you work all the way down the whole length of the fender. VWs have a habit of kicking the rear wheels forward in the arch as they are lowered. the area in the base of the fender behind the door ( kinda the 4o'clock postion ) will rub like crazy if you dont pull it.
Just take your time and get a nice curve, remember to get both sides the same before the bondo layer goes on, lol.

[deadgirls]

I rolled the rear fenders on my mk3 just barely pulling them with an eastwood roller they came out good, I plan on painting the car this winter and want to pull the fenders more fronts and rears to get rid of the line and make a little more room for my wheels would you recommend pulling them with a roller or a block and a hammer?

[Tonys18t]

not too shabby,

had a few PMing me wanting pics of specific cars, i'll dig through the hard drive and get those up, also i promise i'll try to take more pics as i'm working, lol

[FreshLikeSushi]

video i did a while back to see the process

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHuKE4jKenM

[Tonys18t]

my e30 is rolled and shaved too,

you only have to recoat the very edge where the cut was made. the rest will be good. ( unless you shaved the quarter sized hump at the 12 oclock postion on the inside of the e30 arch, but thats another story, lol )

[Byron]

What about if you have to cut through multiple layers like in an e30? Mine are rolled as flat as possible with the undercoating taken out of the inside but the sheer amount of layers of metal still make it 1/4-1/2" thick.

[Tonys18t]

Tony any recommendation on a w124. I have a buddy with a Eastwood. But any tricks you may have?

The 124s are great cars to work on, its best to work the fenders by hand though, hammer and dolly style. The reason being they are squared off and not perfectly arched like most cars. You can get a nice stock looking pull on them if you work slowly and carefully.

When you cut out an inner lip for someone like you did on Marq's car, what do you do with the exposed metal that's left over?

You can clean the inside of the lip and throw some paint or underseal on the shaved area. We're in Cali though so rust isnt really an issue here, but where the tin worm is rampant, its a must.