Which Brand is "Doing Work" In The Stance Scene?

[starbai]

Gotta give props where props is due... VW is definitly where it blew up... hell those guys are usually the trendsetters. Just wish they'd come out with a normal coupe lol (non-hatch)

[EtownC]

Im voting JDM, even though VW's made me the person i am today, JDM cars and their owners have been slamming, stretching, and sliding for years.

Although in terms of my specific styling, i would say VW because most are alot cleaner then JDM cars i see today.

[Digitalwave]

slammed, stretched, poke

Isn't that what stance is?

[OMG TSX]

lol theres some funny explanations in here. especially lonestar22. i was like uhhh what???
i think the euro scene definitely started it first. but these days the "vw look" is such a cookie cutter layout. slammed, stretched, poke like people said before. + a boxer style hood. lol im not ragging on any vw's but it isnt too often when you go WOW at a slammed vw. at least in ny anyways.
what was a euro trend became huge in the import culture. and i think it looks nicer on japanese cars lolllll

[SteveO@OpenRoad]

Personally, I think the Volkswagen guys revolutionized the whole stance craze. Yeah, the VIP guys were probably the first to do it, but the VW crowd brought it to the main-stream.

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I totally agree

[13tsp]

I gotta say Euros in general.

The euro and japanese have been stancing to some degree for decades, but the euros were always more internationally present. The japanese scene's only really started to swap over internationally in the late 90ies, early 2000s. Back then it was also mostly VIP in terms of stanced cars that could be seen internationally, the other japanese styles have only slowly evolved in the past years, or at least gotten more present.

Euros, especially in Europe, have been doing it since I could think. I have been reading car magazines for as long as I could read, before then I even looked at them for just the pictures. For most of the past 20 years, europe has been stancing, except for the early 2000s, that's when most of europe started to follow the Fast and Furious trends with big ass spoilers and sunk in wheels, it's been getting less and less in the last 5 years though, and I'm glad for that.

In Germany the most obvious and visible scene has always been the Volkswagens, followed by Opel, BMW and lastly Ford.

I would use the same words! So +1

[Spencer]

Who knows, but it's wrong to say it came about only bc of style and not bc of laws when it could very well have been the case

agreed.

[aar0n.]

understood, but why do people assume that Europeans decades ago thought any differently about stance than people do today? Yes its a bit different than before because of progression, but that's the same with any scene

people started putting stretch and wide wheels on cars because it looked good, not because of laws.

Because TUV laws are really strict and Europe is legislation trigger-happy? Yes it's a style but the general consensus is that it was borne out of necessity. Is that necessarily the exact truth? Who knows, but it's wrong to say it came about only bc of style and not bc of laws when it could very well have been the case

[Tuck&Poke]

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That TUV thing dates back decades so it obviously wouldn't/shouldn't have any effect on why you stretch your tires in the States today

understood, but why do people assume that Europeans decades ago thought any differently about stance than people do today? Yes its a bit different than before because of progression, but that's the same with any scene. With that thought process then by power of deduction, there is the same law in Jersey, then that place should be a mecca of stance also, but its not because it has nothing to do with laws.

people started putting stretch and wide wheels on cars because it looked good, not because of laws. We need to accept this.

:edited cause i left something out

[noVee]

Why does fitment have to have started for some other reason than people realized that it looks good? That's why i got into it. Not for any other reason other than it looks fuckin hard.

/rant

This.

[aar0n.]

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That TUV thing dates back decades so it obviously wouldn't/shouldn't have any effect on why you stretch your tires in the States today

[Tuck&Poke]

Dont take what I'm about to write the wrong way, this is a general statement, but you brought up something that a lot of people say so I'm just using it for quotes.

The whole tire stretch issue stems from a law in the TUV rules, stating that none of the tread of a tire can be outside of the fender of any car. Hence why people started to stretch tires to fit a lower offset wheel to still conform to TUV standards, which are checked annually and at police stops.

I don't stretch my tires because of a law saying that it cant stick out past the fender. I stretch them because if i don't I'm going to rub the shit out of them on the fender and i wont be able to turn, and i also wont be able to go as low. I'm 99.9% sure that's why anyone into fitment stretches tires, not because of some law where they live. This just seems like one of those word of mouth rumors or internet rumors that spread and everyone assumes is true. Yes that law does exist in A LOT of places including the US, but i don't think its responsible for any kind of fitment movement. And the reason why people go wide is because, how shitty does a slammed and fitted car look from the rear when its on 7.5 in wide wheels. Plus there is a larger selection of tires to choose from if your stretching onto a 9.5" or 10" or 11"

It has since been done in drifting and such to give a firmer more consistent sidewall to help drift cars be consistently on the edge and in control.

while this may be true and does make sense, some of the judging in drift events has to do with how a car looks, so a lot of these guys do mods that you may think are performance oriented, but its really just because it looks good. There are few things sexier than a fitted car 1" off the ground sliding around corners sideways at high speeds.


Why does fitment have to have started for some other reason than people realized that it looks good? That's why i got into it. Not for any other reason other than it looks fuckin hard.

/rant

[noVee]

Anyone remember these?

I definitely do.

Slammed/poked/stretched has been happening in SoCal since the early '60's. As someone else said, it's probably not brand-specific so much as region-specific.

[aar0n.]

id say in the earlier days vw's had slam/poke/stretch, not neccesarily stance. drifters had stance. bmw's put that together and made stance. i cant decide. both the euros and the jdm crowd have been doing it

Lolwut?

[loneStar22]

id say in the earlier days vw's had slam/poke/stretch, not neccesarily stance. drifters had stance. bmw's put that together and made stance. i cant decide. both the euros and the jdm crowd have been doing it