Slammed Sh*tter Rat look Scimitar 1UZFE V8

[pl43]

This project is simply amazing! I Love it.

[V8-ESPRITS3]

Got some more work done today, got the outriggers cut off.
I looked into maybe cutting the body around the floor and lowering it but it won’t work, the bulkhead is tapered and also the hinge pillar and other parts won’t lower due to angles and extra sections. The only way is to lower the complete floor and just leave the centre tunnel intact. The outriggers are shot so no big deal was going to have to cut and weld new sections anyway so might as well cut them all out and lower them equal to the center rails. Just a quick mock up to see how it all fits.

Body is now able to go to the ground so the cill can touch the floor.

Engine clearance is not as bad as I thought may get away with a bulge in the bonnet. I know its hard to see in this picture with all the loom in place but its certainly not as bad as I had pictured it would be so its still in with a chance of staying put and being the power plant for the build.

[V8-ESPRITS3]

I am going to chop the body and lower it on the chassis, get the look and stance I want and then see what room is left for the engine, maybe still able to use the v8 with a different intake manifold.

I really like this photoshop of a scimitar with wire wheels, very E-Type cool!

[poondobber]

Anyone know of a compact low height engine? V6 is the smallest I would want to go with.

I believe the Audi V6's are 90 degree. Not sure how they compare height wise. Most of the V6s I have experience with are narrow angle and tall height. Subaru H6 would get you low height and room on top of the engine for interesting custom intakes.

[V8-ESPRITS3]

Apologies for the radio silence, personal life has been a bit hectic.
Lack of time, bad weather, lack of funds, and lacking any enthusiasm to get back into working on cars has been a struggle. The Mind has been willing but my body just said no!

The engine is too big to fit inside the inner wings, and also the bulkhead, and transmission tunnel had to say goodbye. It’s a possible fit if I was happy with the ride height but I am not.





Lowering the rear axle as low as it will go in the chassis rails is just not getting down as low as I want. All of this chassis sections is going to have to be reworked to allow at least another couple of inches of drop.


Here you can see the difference in the centre chassis rails and body and out rigger heights highlighted with red arrow.

Major hassle now to get the look I want I need to lower the body on the chassis by maybe 3 - 4 inches. That’s not going to work with the Lexus V8 engine as it’s on the limits of only just fitting under the bonnet. The sump is already flush with the chassis so lowering it anymore is just not possible. 14 inch wheels are not going to work either they look too small in the rear arch. So going for bigger diameter wheels even with low profile tyres will increase the overall height again so will have to lower it more!

So keep it as is and be disappointed with not getting it as low as I wanted or change the engine.

Anyone know of a compact low height engine? V6 is the smallest I would want to go with.

[V8-ESPRITS3]

Not much of an update

Eager to get back on this but the weather is crap! rain, rain, and more rain! it sucks having to work outside.

[V8-ESPRITS3]

I think I have the rear sorted for the air ride, picked up this Firestone setup on greedbay the other day.
The air springs should be easy enough to fit with some new mounts. I have all the extra stuff to play around with, you can never have too much spare air ride parts right?

[Red_Arrowheads]

at idle the alternator wouldn't do anything though?

That's true. However, depending on the type of car/alternator you have, it doesn't do anything at idle anyway. I know the popular GM 1-wire alternators do not charge at idle, and actually don't start charging until somewhere north of 1,200 RPM. If you have an old car that uses a generator, those don't charge at idle either.

It really depends on your application. You can run a heavier-duty battery with the driveshaft-driven alternator, and never experience a problem. I know guys with Fox-Body Mustangs, hot rods, and trucks that run this setup with zero issues.

Now, if you plan on running high-amp lighting, sound system, and a bunch of other accessories, then this setup may not be the best.

[dubs&boost]

at idle the alternator wouldn't do anything though?

[V8-ESPRITS3]

Your alternator issue could also be solved by relocating it under the car, and running it off of the driveshaft. There's quite a few types of racecars that do this, and there's even kits for certain street cars.

that's a good idea I would never have thought of that? its good to have options! thanks

[keenan]

this is looking great man. keep it up

[Red_Arrowheads]

Your alternator issue could also be solved by relocating it under the car, and running it off of the driveshaft. There's quite a few types of racecars that do this, and there's even kits for certain street cars.

[gnmzl]

I seriosly just cannot wait to see this thing moving... Props to you, sir, for making this! I also love your v8 Lotus

[V8-ESPRITS3]

Thanks guys, exhaust may yet come out the side of the wing like a Spitfire plane! as clearance out the bonnet is looking too tight with the throttle body and bonnet clearance.......

Progress has been slow lately due to no spare time and rain!
I have tried the rear axle with the chassis flat on the floor and had to notch some clearance for the diff.

The front has worked out fine with the 4 inch drop and could go lower but the main chassis rails are grounded as I wanted,
this has now shown up the outriggers are higher so don’t ground out how I had envisioned which is a little disappointing……….
The alternator also just will not fit even with the towers cut back so that’s going in front of the engine and maybe on a jack shaft.
I could try and find another smaller item but that’s still going to take time and money and still may not fit either?
Notching the front beam and moving the engine has also allowed enough clearance for the gearbox to fit inside the main rails just fine.


Keeping 14 inch wheels and 55 profile tyres work well and look ok in the arch when slammed.
Lots of work still to do but its getting done and most of its working out ok?

[keenan]

its nothing to do with fitting? its to do with budget and bang for buck and I happen to like V8's and as this engine was dirt cheap ticks both boxes for me!

that makes sense. they are cheaper and i am sure you'll be abe to find the v8s a lot easier for real.