R.I.P Paul Walker

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im i the only one completely baffled by the posts in this thread?

I'm right there with you buddy. I knew a bit about how Paul was a good person, did many selfless things, and was certainly a true enthusiast, but it's kind of alarming to know that people got into the car scene because of the F&F films. I was deeply invested into modifying cars before the first movie even came out. It was a totally different world then. When I saw it I was shocked and could barely get through the first few scenes. Those movies have always been a slurry of misinformation & misrepresentation. As a result I admittedly viewed the franchise as having a largely negative effect on the quality of the car scene as a whole. Especially when films like Senna or Rush go widely unnoticed. F&F is like sending your kid to class only to find that the teacher ditched the curriculum and made up half the information themselves. Now your kid is running around stoked thinking everything they learned was correct and you're left with a sinking feeling. That's basically how I felt about the car world every time I watched a F&F film.

It's a true tragedy that Pual has died, but I have high hopes for a future without Fast & Furious.

[VanDamage]

I'm right there with you buddy. I knew a bit about how Paul was a good person, did many selfless things, and was certainly a true enthusiast, but it's kind of alarming to know that people got into the car scene because of the F&F films. I was deeply invested into modifying cars before the first movie even came out. It was a totally different world then. When I saw it I was shocked and could barely get through the first few scenes. Those movies have always been a slurry of misinformation & misrepresentation. As a result I admittedly viewed the franchise as having a largely negative effect on the quality of the car scene as a whole. Especially when films like Senna or Rush go widely unnoticed. F&F is like sending your kid to class only to find that the teacher ditched the curriculum and made up half the information themselves. Now your kid is running around stoked thinking everything they learned was correct and you're left with a sinking feeling. That's basically how I felt about the car world every time I watched a F&F film.

It's a true tragedy that Pual has died, but I have high hopes for a future without Fast & Furious.

I think what you're forgetting is that most of us on this forum, myself included, are quite young. The first F&F film came out when I was 10! When your 10 years old and you see something like the first F&F for the first time it completely changes how you think about cars. After I saw that movie there was nothing cooler than modifying cars. The movie made me want to modify cars when I was older, and the person who delivered that message to very young me was Paul Walker. So I think he is alot more significant to us younger guys than anoyone who was around the scene before the movies. Granted the way people modify cars changed over time, for the better, but the desire is still the same. A desire that I think for most people of my age group started with Fast and Furious and Gran Tourismo.

[Blacky]

I'm right there with you buddy. I knew a bit about how Paul was a good person, did many selfless things, and was certainly a true enthusiast, but it's kind of alarming to know that people got into the car scene because of the F&F films. I was deeply invested into modifying cars before the first movie even came out. It was a totally different world then. When I saw it I was shocked and could barely get through the first few scenes. Those movies have always been a slurry of misinformation & misrepresentation. As a result I admittedly viewed the franchise as having a largely negative effect on the quality of the car scene as a whole. Especially when films like Senna or Rush go widely unnoticed. F&F is like sending your kid to class only to find that the teacher ditched the curriculum and made up half the information themselves. Now your kid is running around stoked thinking everything they learned was correct and you're left with a sinking feeling. That's basically how I felt about the car world every time I watched a F&F film.

It's a true tragedy that Pual has died, but I have high hopes for a future without Fast & Furious.

What a stupid post, I would say a decent % of the people that are into cars these days that were in their early teens/tweens when F&F came out are in the scene because of those movies, there is nothing wrong with that, just because they aren't 100% accurate portrayals of the car scene doesn't mean that they didn't introduce millions of kids to modified cars and the scene around them. I've loved cars since i was knee high, but F&F definitely introduced me, and most of my car loving friends, into the modified car scene as a youngster.

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What a stupid post

Well that's kind of the pot calling the kettle black, no? Let's take a look at a selection of your posts:

this is the most retarded idea ever.

translation: I got anally raped by half of the forum so have now decided to pretend i was trolling, because i'm scared i won't be able to post here again

why do you cry about everything?

hood is gay

who dat

I think this may qualify as an example of someone that the car community does not need, yet has to deal with as a result of F&F. Thank you for proving my point.

[Blacky]

Well that's kind of the pot calling the kettle black, no? Let's take a look at a selection of your posts:












I think this may qualify as an example of someone that the car community does not need, yet has to deal with as a result of F&F. Thank you for proving my point.

It's pretty strange that you didn't address my actual comment in any way, yet went to the trouble of trawling through my previous posts and then posting them completely out of context because you're butthurt that your elitist/idiotic point was put down. Your post is still awful, not every kid gets into cars through their classic car enthusiast dad/neighbour or scene-correct magazine, F&F introduced many people to modified cars, those people's opinions and style preferences have obviously evolved but it doesn't take away from the origins of their interest in cars, however stupid the cars/scenes in the movies were.

[TheNeek]

keep it civil or timeouts will be given.

[SuperMegaDeathRay]

could you guys please continue your shit via pm. thanks.

[GLi16v]

The official F&F Facebook page just dropped a short tribute video, not gonna lie, it brought back some emotions.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152047047202631

[hackrtanman]

I think what you're forgetting is that most of us on this forum, myself included, are quite young. The first F&F film came out when I was 10! When your 10 years old and you see something like the first F&F for the first time it completely changes how you think about cars. After I saw that movie there was nothing cooler than modifying cars. The movie made me want to modify cars when I was older, and the person who delivered that message to very young me was Paul Walker. So I think he is alot more significant to us younger guys than anoyone who was around the scene before the movies. Granted the way people modify cars changed over time, for the better, but the desire is still the same. A desire that I think for most people of my age group started with Fast and Furious and Gran Tourismo.

This 100 Percent word for word. I can proudly say I am 16, and have these movies impacted me? Yes. Have they taught me a lot? Not really.

Growing up I was always into taking things apart to find out how they work. This alongside growing up with NFS and the back of my dads '69 T-Bird are pretty much my childhood, and up until 12 I was set on getting a 60's Plymouth Satellite. Then reality hit me; I don't have a couple thousand to pay for a NW 50 year old car and do all the repairs on.

That's where FnF and PW come in. I remember wanting to be his mirror image, spending my days street racing in Skylines and crazy modified cars, but obviously this isn't quite the reality. Seeing these movies introduced me into the "JDM" world, which in turn also open a whole realm of cars and style; European, Japanese, Rally, Stance, wide body, Stance, super cars, you name it. My free time suddenly got sucked into Craigslist, Wikipedia, Forza/GT, forums such as this. Ultimately this brought me to my Celica project.

So would I personally be the same person without FnF and Paul Walker? No, absolutely not.

[parttimeprojectionist]

I'm right there with you buddy. I knew a bit about how Paul was a good person, did many selfless things, and was certainly a true enthusiast, but it's kind of alarming to know that people got into the car scene because of the F&F films. I was deeply invested into modifying cars before the first movie even came out. It was a totally different world then. When I saw it I was shocked and could barely get through the first few scenes. Those movies have always been a slurry of misinformation & misrepresentation. As a result I admittedly viewed the franchise as having a largely negative effect on the quality of the car scene as a whole. Especially when films like Senna or Rush go widely unnoticed. F&F is like sending your kid to class only to find that the teacher ditched the curriculum and made up half the information themselves. Now your kid is running around stoked thinking everything they learned was correct and you're left with a sinking feeling. That's basically how I felt about the car world every time I watched a F&F film.

It's a true tragedy that Pual has died, but I have high hopes for a future without Fast & Furious.

phew!! glad im not the only one... thanks for posting, i guess i forget my age age sometimes, i still feel like im 22 most days
and btw Senna has brought me close to tears.

blacky what you probably dont know is those movies made the import scene a frustrating thing to be associated with, the kids (not that i wasnt a kid at the time that got into it immediately after FF came out really just fucked it all up. theft skyrocketed and cops really cracked down, and people that i looked up to that were into cars did not hold back with their utter disdain of anything japanese. i remember trying to have conversations about cars with people back then and just giving up because of all the misinformation and hype generated by those movies.

that being said things seem a lot better these days, but i think it has more to do with he availability of info and forums like stanceworks that are more accepting of different styles. i just had no idea that soo many people thought that highly of a guy that i associate(rightly or wrongly) with the temporary setback/ downfall of something ive dedicated my life to

[Simply Classy]

What GLi16v posted but here it is embedded.



What makes this video so powerful is the fact of family, bringing together a group of people with a common passion and love; for most of us it's cars.

"The most important thing in life will always be the people in this room, right here, right now. Salud mi familia."

[Jlyons617]

Maybe it's just a generational thing, but I didn't see everyone up in arms when Carroll Shelby died in 2012 and they're won't be any hype on here when Pete Brock passes.

[MommysLittleMonster]

I'm slightly disturbed about the fact that no one is mentioning Roger Rodas. He was a huge loss, too.

[Jlyons617]

I'm slightly disturbed about the fact that no one is mentioning Roger Rodas. He was a huge loss, too.

In all honesty I had to look him up. Interesting guy. I do have to say i bet he got in a little over his head with that Carrera GT. He went form racing Boss 302 Mustangs in The Pirelli series to a half million dollar 200+mph supercar.

[Aitch]

Maybe it's just a generational thing, but I didn't see everyone up in arms when Carroll Shelby died in 2012 and they're won't be any hype on here when Pete Brock passes.

I get your point, but a lot of us in the 20-30ish age range don't feel a personal connection to them. I hugely respect the respective contributions to the automotive world, but when there isn't that same feeling of personal connection you won't see the same outpouring of grief. In that respect it's kinda the nature of the beast, where you have a famous movie star who was brought into people's lives in a larger-than-life way, who obviously shared the same passions.