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What makes this video so powerful is the fact of family, bringing together a group of people with a common passion and love; for most of us it's cars.
"The most important thing in life will always be the people in this room, right here, right now. Salud mi familia."
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phew!! glad im not the only one... thanks for posting, i guess i forget my age age sometimes, i still feel like im 22 most daysOriginally posted by [666] View PostI'm right there with you buddy. I knew a bit about how Paul was a good person, did many selfless things, and was certainly a true enthusiast, but it's kind of alarming to know that people got into the car scene because of the F&F films. I was deeply invested into modifying cars before the first movie even came out. It was a totally different world then. When I saw it I was shocked and could barely get through the first few scenes. Those movies have always been a slurry of misinformation & misrepresentation. As a result I admittedly viewed the franchise as having a largely negative effect on the quality of the car scene as a whole. Especially when films like Senna or Rush go widely unnoticed. F&F is like sending your kid to class only to find that the teacher ditched the curriculum and made up half the information themselves. Now your kid is running around stoked thinking everything they learned was correct and you're left with a sinking feeling. That's basically how I felt about the car world every time I watched a F&F film.
It's a true tragedy that Pual has died, but I have high hopes for a future without Fast & Furious.
and btw Senna has brought me close to tears.
blacky what you probably dont know is those movies made the import scene a frustrating thing to be associated with, the kids (not that i wasnt a kid at the time
that got into it immediately after FF came out really just fucked it all up. theft skyrocketed and cops really cracked down, and people that i looked up to that were into cars did not hold back with their utter disdain of anything japanese. i remember trying to have conversations about cars with people back then and just giving up because of all the misinformation and hype generated by those movies.
that being said things seem a lot better these days, but i think it has more to do with he availability of info and forums like stanceworks that are more accepting of different styles. i just had no idea that soo many people thought that highly of a guy that i associate(rightly or wrongly) with the temporary setback/ downfall of something ive dedicated my life to
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This 100 Percent word for word. I can proudly say I am 16, and have these movies impacted me? Yes. Have they taught me a lot? Not really.Originally posted by VanDamage View PostI think what you're forgetting is that most of us on this forum, myself included, are quite young. The first F&F film came out when I was 10! When your 10 years old and you see something like the first F&F for the first time it completely changes how you think about cars. After I saw that movie there was nothing cooler than modifying cars. The movie made me want to modify cars when I was older, and the person who delivered that message to very young me was Paul Walker. So I think he is alot more significant to us younger guys than anoyone who was around the scene before the movies. Granted the way people modify cars changed over time, for the better, but the desire is still the same. A desire that I think for most people of my age group started with Fast and Furious and Gran Tourismo.
Growing up I was always into taking things apart to find out how they work. This alongside growing up with NFS and the back of my dads '69 T-Bird are pretty much my childhood, and up until 12 I was set on getting a 60's Plymouth Satellite. Then reality hit me; I don't have a couple thousand to pay for a NW 50 year old car and do all the repairs on.
That's where FnF and PW come in. I remember wanting to be his mirror image, spending my days street racing in Skylines and crazy modified cars, but obviously this isn't quite the reality. Seeing these movies introduced me into the "JDM" world, which in turn also open a whole realm of cars and style; European, Japanese, Rally, Stance, wide body, Stance, super cars, you name it. My free time suddenly got sucked into Craigslist, Wikipedia, Forza/GT, forums such as this. Ultimately this brought me to my Celica project.
So would I personally be the same person without FnF and Paul Walker? No, absolutely not.
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It's pretty strange that you didn't address my actual comment in any way, yet went to the trouble of trawling through my previous posts and then posting them completely out of context because you're butthurt that your elitist/idiotic point was put down. Your post is still awful, not every kid gets into cars through their classic car enthusiast dad/neighbour or scene-correct magazine, F&F introduced many people to modified cars, those people's opinions and style preferences have obviously evolved but it doesn't take away from the origins of their interest in cars, however stupid the cars/scenes in the movies were.Originally posted by [666] View PostWell that's kind of the pot calling the kettle black, no? Let's take a look at a selection of your posts:
I think this may qualify as an example of someone that the car community does not need, yet has to deal with as a result of F&F. Thank you for proving my point.Last edited by Blacky; 12-04-2013, 02:48 PM.
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Well that's kind of the pot calling the kettle black, no? Let's take a look at a selection of your posts:Originally posted by Blacky View PostWhat a stupid post
Originally posted by Blacky View Postthis is the most retarded idea ever.Originally posted by Blacky View Posttranslation: I got anally raped by half of the forum so have now decided to pretend i was trolling, because i'm scared i won't be able to post here againOriginally posted by Blacky View Postwhy do you cry about everything?Originally posted by Blacky View Posthood is gayI think this may qualify as an example of someone that the car community does not need, yet has to deal with as a result of F&F. Thank you for proving my point.Originally posted by Blackywho dat
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What a stupid post, I would say a decent % of the people that are into cars these days that were in their early teens/tweens when F&F came out are in the scene because of those movies, there is nothing wrong with that, just because they aren't 100% accurate portrayals of the car scene doesn't mean that they didn't introduce millions of kids to modified cars and the scene around them. I've loved cars since i was knee high, but F&F definitely introduced me, and most of my car loving friends, into the modified car scene as a youngster.Originally posted by [666] View PostI'm right there with you buddy. I knew a bit about how Paul was a good person, did many selfless things, and was certainly a true enthusiast, but it's kind of alarming to know that people got into the car scene because of the F&F films. I was deeply invested into modifying cars before the first movie even came out. It was a totally different world then. When I saw it I was shocked and could barely get through the first few scenes. Those movies have always been a slurry of misinformation & misrepresentation. As a result I admittedly viewed the franchise as having a largely negative effect on the quality of the car scene as a whole. Especially when films like Senna or Rush go widely unnoticed. F&F is like sending your kid to class only to find that the teacher ditched the curriculum and made up half the information themselves. Now your kid is running around stoked thinking everything they learned was correct and you're left with a sinking feeling. That's basically how I felt about the car world every time I watched a F&F film.
It's a true tragedy that Pual has died, but I have high hopes for a future without Fast & Furious.
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I think what you're forgetting is that most of us on this forum, myself included, are quite young. The first F&F film came out when I was 10! When your 10 years old and you see something like the first F&F for the first time it completely changes how you think about cars. After I saw that movie there was nothing cooler than modifying cars. The movie made me want to modify cars when I was older, and the person who delivered that message to very young me was Paul Walker. So I think he is alot more significant to us younger guys than anoyone who was around the scene before the movies. Granted the way people modify cars changed over time, for the better, but the desire is still the same. A desire that I think for most people of my age group started with Fast and Furious and Gran Tourismo.Originally posted by [666] View PostI'm right there with you buddy. I knew a bit about how Paul was a good person, did many selfless things, and was certainly a true enthusiast, but it's kind of alarming to know that people got into the car scene because of the F&F films. I was deeply invested into modifying cars before the first movie even came out. It was a totally different world then. When I saw it I was shocked and could barely get through the first few scenes. Those movies have always been a slurry of misinformation & misrepresentation. As a result I admittedly viewed the franchise as having a largely negative effect on the quality of the car scene as a whole. Especially when films like Senna or Rush go widely unnoticed. F&F is like sending your kid to class only to find that the teacher ditched the curriculum and made up half the information themselves. Now your kid is running around stoked thinking everything they learned was correct and you're left with a sinking feeling. That's basically how I felt about the car world every time I watched a F&F film.
It's a true tragedy that Pual has died, but I have high hopes for a future without Fast & Furious.
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I'm right there with you buddy. I knew a bit about how Paul was a good person, did many selfless things, and was certainly a true enthusiast, but it's kind of alarming to know that people got into the car scene because of the F&F films. I was deeply invested into modifying cars before the first movie even came out. It was a totally different world then. When I saw it I was shocked and could barely get through the first few scenes. Those movies have always been a slurry of misinformation & misrepresentation. As a result I admittedly viewed the franchise as having a largely negative effect on the quality of the car scene as a whole. Especially when films like Senna or Rush go widely unnoticed. F&F is like sending your kid to class only to find that the teacher ditched the curriculum and made up half the information themselves. Now your kid is running around stoked thinking everything they learned was correct and you're left with a sinking feeling. That's basically how I felt about the car world every time I watched a F&F film.Originally posted by parttimeprojectionist View Postim i the only one completely baffled by the posts in this thread?
It's a true tragedy that Pual has died, but I have high hopes for a future without Fast & Furious.
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i get what p78 was saying and i kind of understand his point of view but i fully go with oxers point.
why we feel more connected to paul than we do to winehouse needs no comment. he was one of us. a guy going nuts about cars. the fine distinction was only on the paychecks. though we never met him, we grew with him through the movies. maybe not the best example but i remember playing gta v at the end of the story when i had to decide which way i would go. i played all three options and at the end it was pretty sad (not even as much as i am about the loss of paul) seeing trevor or michael dying because i grew with these motherfuckers through the game. as i said not the best example but tells it in a transferred sense.
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i can still feel a wave of sadness come over me everytime i think of his death. I'm based in south africa and FnF had a big impact on our scene, its what started the new wave of the scene off. it made imports popular. it made me want an EG that could fuck around under trucks and shit. Paul was the "buster" who wasnt as cool to begin with but drew me in because he always seemed genuinely into the role he was playing (suppose it now makes sense seeing as though he was a car guy). although the movies can be farfecthed at times, i feel that Paul and the rest of the crew had a big part to play in the automotive scene on a global scale - and that is the mark of a legend.
Im saddened by his passing and pray that he got granted a high place in heaven, with all the cars he could dream of. RIP Brian Earl Spilner
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I'm nearly 34 and while I didn't break down over the news, it definitely was a shock to me and I'm sad that he's gone. As others have said it's one of the few celebrity deaths where I feel sad because of a more personal connection, through the F&F movies and knowing that he was a fellow car nut.Originally posted by parttimeprojectionist View Postim i the only one completely baffled by the posts in this thread?
a) i had no idea he was a car guy
b) i had no idea about his charity work
c) i had no idea anyone actually liked FF movies, or was inspired by them or him
i definitely have respect for dead people and would never make fun of them, well to a certain degree, i mean who didnt aprec the OBL memes!?
but the only thought that came to mind was "that sucks, ironic, but sucks"
is this an age thing? im 33 now and was very embarassed when the movies came out, esp having owned alot of hondas by that point.
anyone else even slighty surprised by all of the public outcry? just wondering, and no disrespect meant
I don't feel much shame in telling people I know (even non-car people) that I like the F&F movies. Sure they're glorified and non-realistic, but they are fun, packed with action, and entertaining. Whenever a new one comes out there's always a group of people in my local clubs ready to do a group meet on opening night, even the ones that are our age and have seen them all from the start. Lots of us aren't even your stereo-typical "car guy" always out in the garage, all our spare time working on cars. Hell I've got a kid which eats up most of my spare time and I'm in marketing for a software company - other than driving my car the only other thing I do is read about automotive stuff, which makes me feel very atypical from what most people on here are like.
Note - I'm just responding, I'm not trying to imply you're odd for not feeling affected by PW's passing.
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