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It resurfaced on Speedhunters recently. And by recently I mean today lol
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lolOriginally posted by Brad Pitts View PostThe gearing in a ctr is also way diff. It keeps the motor in the power band. N really 10lb of tq is not gonna make a big diff. If you worried about tq build a b20 vtec. You put a b16b n a gsr in same car witg same mods n the ctr will win
Whatever you say man, fact is you're hitting vtakz alot earlier with the gsr AND hitting peak whp and tq alot sooner than with that DE-stroked type r motor. On top of that I'd be willing to bet that a GSR with some bolt on's will make the power gap even bigger, even if they had the same mods.
There is a reason why you almost never see that swap, its too expensive for what it is.
Hell even if for some reason that thing maginally beat the gsr, you could take that 1k or so you saved by getting the GSR and get the type r transmission with the slightly better gearing and LSD.Dude... My nissan has like a v8, man.
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Your not hittin vtec sooner because vtec crossover is at the same rpm @5500-5800 the ctr will reach it sooner because of its shorter gearing. The reason it costs more is because it was made in alot less numbers. For the money the gsr is a better buy but given a choice the ctr is a better motor. Honestly a plan ol b16 can get you plenty fast. The .2 diff in displacement doesnt really matter. It can be had for less than gsr. Its also been proven that a well built b16 will run just as good as gsr.
I have a friend that.use to run a eg hatch with stock internal b16 turbo n ran consistent high 10s low 11s till it eventually blew. There has also been a b16 with ctr pistons n ctr cams with ported.head revin to 10k make 200whp on 91oct.
Honestly if I was buildin a honda for drag/street id build a h2b setup. The power n tq of h22 but with better b series trans
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the GSR will hit it at 4500.....Originally posted by Brad Pitts View PostYour not hittin vtec sooner because vtec crossover is at the same rpm @5500-5800 the ctr will reach it sooner because of its shorter gearing.
yeah and almost no one gets themOriginally posted by Brad Pitts View PostThe reason it costs more is because it was made in alot less numbers.
Yes if I was given a free motor I'd choose a integra type r motor. There is no replacement for displacement, especially when you can GET MORE FOR LESS MONEY. So now you're saying a B16A is better? the torque less wonder? LMAOOriginally posted by Brad Pitts View PostFor the money the gsr is a better buy but given a choice the ctr is a better motor. Honestly a plan ol b16 can get you plenty fast. The .2 diff in displacement doesnt really matter. It can be had for less than gsr.
And now your talking about boost, yes if you add boost to a honda it makes more power, its the same thing with a b18b or b16, or b18c.Originally posted by Brad Pitts View PostIts also been proven that a well built b16 will run just as good as gsr.
I have a friend that.use to run a eg hatch with stock internal b16 turbo n ran consistent high 10s low 11s till it eventually blew.
No way that happened, especially on a mustang dyno.Originally posted by Brad Pitts View PostThere has also been a b16 with ctr pistons n ctr cams with ported.head revin to 10k make 200whp on 91oct.
Honestly if I was buildin a honda for drag/street id build a h2b setup. The power n tq of h22 but with better b series trans
A b16a makes about 140whp on a dynapack dyno, 130 on mustang.
No way you are getting 60-70 whp on a 1.6L with OEM pistons, OEM cams, and some porting.Dude... My nissan has like a v8, man.
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It all started with the kid talking about getting a b16a, I told him to at least get a b18c if not a k20. Then this other guy came in and said get a b16b. I give up.Originally posted by SeanDub View PostWhy would you build a b series these days when there's such better options? If I wanted a fast Honda I would go k20/4 no question.Dude... My nissan has like a v8, man.
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