Situation in Syria

[Anonymoose]

I've seen lately a few people list their location as Syria and wanted to see what the opinion was in regards to the current difficulties the country faces and hopefully get some truths about it directly from people living there.

How do you feel about what is going on and what is going on exactly?

Is it represented accurately in the world media outlets?

I have the opinion, conspiracies/media information aside, the events happening now are very much the same as in Iraq and Libya. No matter what these dictators have done there is a storyline which has similarities that are frightening. The outcome is also the same and still has not solved anything. I believe that war and foreign countries participation is not a way to solve any of these problems but this is the way things are going and no one will have immunity if WW3 comes to be. The people of the world should decide whether or not this should happen and should be listened to by our world leaders unlike past peace protests that have been ignored in full (such as [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysva-csAg8A"]15 February 2003: The day the world said no to war - YouTube[/ame]).

[Anonymoose]

Two months and no reply's?

How about now?

The situation has escalated and we are now almost at the point of a world war. I'm interested in all opinions if anyone has one.

[P78]

not too sure, we are on the brink of war again

problem in this situation are china and russia who do not want an embargo on syria and bashad, but whom i hope won't be stupid enough to start war over this

i also don't think an armed raid will do any good, we should try to let the local people resolve this

[180roman]

The problem is people only know what the media tells them they should know... not necessarily the truth...

Therefore pretty much everyone's opinions other than from those directly affected in Syria would be null and void based on not knowing the full truth.

[CrackerTeg]

The problem is people only know what the media tells them they should know... not necessarily the truth...

Therefore pretty much everyone's opinions other than from those directly affected in Syria would be null and void based on not knowing the full truth.

This x10000000000000000.

[Anonymoose]

The problem is people only know what the media tells them they should know... not necessarily the truth...

Therefore pretty much everyone's opinions other than from those directly affected in Syria would be null and void based on not knowing the full truth.

This is largely true but there are many unbiased news sites showing things the mainstream tv/web based outlets don't.

It really does come down to lazyness and the fact it isn't directly affecting most people (yet) that they don't search for an unbiased account.

I watched some footage of the rebels/terrorists massacre dozens of children after beating them with the butts of their rifles, another of many dozens of civilian men and boys killed with machine guns after being forced to lie in piles and being stamped on and beaten with rilfe butts.

I know both sides have done unimaginable things but I definitely feel we shouldn't be giving arms to anyone involved. Especially because it's our fucking tax money funding it on our behalf.

That aside has anyone read the US, NDAA 2012? This states (TLDR - See bold bit) :

SEC. 1021. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE.

(a) IN GENERAL.—Congress affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note) includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons (as defined in subsection (b)) pending disposition under the law of war.

(b) COVERED PERSONS.—A covered person under this section is any person as follows:

(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.

(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces

The west are supporting the terrorists with arms and aid. This is public knowledge. While I know there are most likely very convenient loop holes and sanctions created to cover them, this shows the hypocracy and level of one sided power it gives. IE to be used against anyone speaking out against such governments. See other recent legislations being passed that are intwined with this act.

They have tried to twist this same situation to blame Russia, saying they are indirectly supplying terrorists through supplying Assad and this being a bad thing. While this is true, what is worse? Directly supplying them or twisting something because of the nature of war when the government positions are taken (by the terrorist and western back countries) along with the weapons they had so say they are somehow responsible.

I want to know why Americans of all people aren't in outrage. This is one second away from an un-needed world war by definition and we all will be affected.

[CrackerTeg]

I want to know why Americans of all people aren't in outrage. This is one second away from an un-needed world war by definition and we all will be affected.

This country isn't in outrage because the vast majority are sheople that worship Oblabla and think he does no wrong. Also, the media is controlled by big businesses here and like Roman said, only put out what the businesses wanted them to put out. Benghazi. Remember that? Have the sheople of America gone after the guy that said to not do anything? No. They are brainwashed or look the other way. Whistle blowers get hunted down and shot like dogs in the street. Families of prominent figures (Bill Clinton for example) are threatened so that those people are shut up. This country has become a socialist shithole and everyone is turning a blind eye.

[motocaddy]

the events happening now are very much the same as in Iraq and Libya.

Intervening in these countries didn't really make things better. Officials in many countries are paying attention to the situation with Syria, but what would you have them do? The situation isn't like Libya where some drones and long range missle strikes will tip the scales to the "good guys." Putting troops on the ground in Syria will be a mess. Not even sure they'd know who to fight or wouldn't just escalate things further.

It's true major news outlets could cover Syria a lot more, but that's such a buzzkill. Us Americans want our "news" limited to high-profile murder trials, celebrity babies, and politician sex scandals.

[CrackerTeg]

Us Americans want our "news" limited to high-profile murder trials, celebrity babies, and politician sex scandals.

Sad but so true.

[Anonymoose]

Intervening in these countries didn't really make things better. Officials in many countries are paying attention to the situation with Syria, but what would you have them do? The situation isn't like Libya where some drones and long range missle strikes will tip the scales to the "good guys." Putting troops on the ground in Syria will be a mess. Not even sure they'd know who to fight or wouldn't just escalate things further.

It's true major news outlets could cover Syria a lot more, but that's such a buzzkill. Us Americans want our "news" limited to high-profile murder trials, celebrity babies, and politician sex scandals.

It seems we are saying the same thing? I totally disagree with any involvement, it is none of the western governments business.

"Officials in many countries are paying attention to the situation with Syria, but what would you have them do?"

I would have them stand up to the main instigator and tell them it is not acceptable and should be stopped immediately. They are all partly to blame for the lack of opposition to what is happening. I'm definitely not blaming the US gov alone or us citizens in any way. I just fail to see why you would want your relatives, sons and daughters sent to die, kill and be maimed in something that is obviously a tactical move and no way for the peace of Syrian people. If it were they would have had talks and the west would not have refused this, more encouraged it, for the people of all sides involved.

War is the biggest crime against humanity and the whole thing about accusing Syria of doing it has no merit when we supply terrorists in the name of peace.

"The situation isn't like Libya where some drones and long range missle strikes will tip the scales to the "good guys.""

Yet the situation is exactly that. Israel has been using air strikes who is backed by the US. It isn't about tipping the scales nor was it ever, it's about destabilizing the country so it depends on other powers to regain what was lost through the war process equating to control.

"Putting troops on the ground in Syria will be a mess. Not even sure they'd know who to fight or wouldn't just escalate things further. "

Exactly. No one in this whole thing has shown direct aggression towards the west to cause this except ahhh....The terrorists we support! Which is why my point of the NDAA 2012 violation is ridiculous. We live in dictatorships, it is clear.

After Isreal is using airstrikes against Syria, Syria will have to retaliate. Isreal has US backing. Terrorists are gaining strength through the supply of arms/aid with our money and positions taken from Syrian forces. We continue to let this happen while a world wide warning against a major terror attack is in place. Doesn't that effectively implicate us? 'When you can't beat em, join em' comes to mind constantly.

The airbase attacked in the last week or so was used by assad to supply food to the neighbouring communities. With this in the control of the opposition what will happen to the civilians there if they haven't already fled? They will be held/killed/their food taken for use by opposition forces. This in itself is not a pretty situation, when while the media paints a biased picture of the conflict through twisting truths to suit an agenda (also see russia accused of indirectly supplying terrorists), civilians including children are massacred by the terrorists using the weapons/aid we have supplied (all here on the internet). We directly send arms. Russia supplies Assad and when governent forces are defeated, the weapons are obviously taken. What do they do? Resort to biased propaganda.

Most sides have publicly stressed their willingness for talks yet this has ultimately been refused by the west, opting to supply terrorists and due to the way these people fight, drag the conflict out for many many years.

Remember this is all in the name of peace for the Syrian people.