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I agree. There are some new cars I like though, like the Nissan Versa and similar, but overall cars are becoming a lot more bland. I like my 90's cars, and some older 70's cars (*cough*Datsuns*cough*)
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Unless ice was a factor, slow down while traversing the unknown. Problem solved!Originally posted by Jawnswagg3r View Postthis may be vague and unwanted, but it is how i form my opinion. throughout my days, i've been in a few wrecks, as im' sure we all have. through stupid teenager days, (not so long ago for some of us), i've been in accidents with what is being described as a 'new' car (a mk5 r32), and character filled old cars (my first car, a beat-to-hell 240z, and a golf mk2). While by no means attempting to call myself a better than average driver, by any means, after the accidents, the older, less capable yet more 'character filled' (mechanical linkages, minimal electronic interference) cars left me with a feeling that I, as a driver, pushed the car's past their limits. I was sure that there was no way the cars were at fault, and I had done something wrong. However, after putting an r32 into a ditch, i was left with an empty feeling. I felt that it wasn't me really driving, and i wasn't in true control of the situation. The same had happened 2 days ago after i was driving through unknown pennsylvania territory, and my tdi mk5 sportwagen found itself in the side of a hill. Obviously I had done something wrong and in the end of the day I was at fault, yet newer cars leave me feeling as if there is a vast gap between what I do and how the car responds. This has basically already been said, just my 2 cents
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You've wrecked how many cars? Maybe you should slow down a little bit.Originally posted by Jawnswagg3r View Postthis may be vague and unwanted, but it is how i form my opinion. throughout my days, i've been in a few wrecks, as im' sure we all have. through stupid teenager days, (not so long ago for some of us), i've been in accidents with what is being described as a 'new' car (a mk5 r32), and character filled old cars (my first car, a beat-to-hell 240z, and a golf mk2). While by no means attempting to call myself a better than average driver, by any means, after the accidents, the older, less capable yet more 'character filled' (mechanical linkages, minimal electronic interference) cars left me with a feeling that I, as a driver, pushed the car's past their limits. I was sure that there was no way the cars were at fault, and I had done something wrong. However, after putting an r32 into a ditch, i was left with an empty feeling. I felt that it wasn't me really driving, and i wasn't in true control of the situation. The same had happened 2 days ago after i was driving through unknown pennsylvania territory, and my tdi mk5 sportwagen found itself in the side of a hill. Obviously I had done something wrong and in the end of the day I was at fault, yet newer cars leave me feeling as if there is a vast gap between what I do and how the car responds. This has basically already been said, just my 2 cents
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He may have written the longest sentence in human history.Originally posted by Kielan View PostI think you should probably learn to drive and not get in so many accidents, then report back.
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I think you should probably learn to drive and not get in so many accidents, then report back.Originally posted by Jawnswagg3r View Postthis may be vague and unwanted, but it is how i form my opinion. throughout my days, i've been in a few wrecks, as im' sure we all have. through stupid teenager days, (not so long ago for some of us), i've been in accidents with what is being described as a 'new' car (a mk5 r32), and character filled old cars (my first car, a beat-to-hell 240z, and a golf mk2). While by no means attempting to call myself a better than average driver, by any means, after the accidents, the older, less capable yet more 'character filled' (mechanical linkages, minimal electronic interference) cars left me with a feeling that I, as a driver, pushed the car's past their limits. I was sure that there was no way the cars were at fault, and I had done something wrong. However, after putting an r32 into a ditch, i was left with an empty feeling. I felt that it wasn't me really driving, and i wasn't in true control of the situation. The same had happened 2 days ago after i was driving through unknown pennsylvania territory, and my tdi mk5 sportwagen found itself in the side of a hill. Obviously I had done something wrong and in the end of the day I was at fault, yet newer cars leave me feeling as if there is a vast gap between what I do and how the car responds. This has basically already been said, just my 2 cents
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this may be vague and unwanted, but it is how i form my opinion. throughout my days, i've been in a few wrecks, as im' sure we all have. through stupid teenager days, (not so long ago for some of us), i've been in accidents with what is being described as a 'new' car (a mk5 r32), and character filled old cars (my first car, a beat-to-hell 240z, and a golf mk2). While by no means attempting to call myself a better than average driver, by any means, after the accidents, the older, less capable yet more 'character filled' (mechanical linkages, minimal electronic interference) cars left me with a feeling that I, as a driver, pushed the car's past their limits. I was sure that there was no way the cars were at fault, and I had done something wrong. However, after putting an r32 into a ditch, i was left with an empty feeling. I felt that it wasn't me really driving, and i wasn't in true control of the situation. The same had happened 2 days ago after i was driving through unknown pennsylvania territory, and my tdi mk5 sportwagen found itself in the side of a hill. Obviously I had done something wrong and in the end of the day I was at fault, yet newer cars leave me feeling as if there is a vast gap between what I do and how the car responds. This has basically already been said, just my 2 cents
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Agreed.Originally posted by Jlyons617 View PostWhile I dissagree with Kielan, I gotta give him massive props. He's stuck to his opinions and his responses have been well formulated.
Even if he is a Prius loving weirdo.
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While I dissagree with Kielan, I gotta give him massive props. He's stuck to his opinions and his responses have been well formulated.
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No it doesn't, a brand new car can take on the character of the owner very quickly. Our modifications are what make our cars our own. General care for (or lack there of) makes a car what it is. So..Originally posted by SheaMoose View PostI kinda agree on the owner creating character, but that also in a way disproves you saying brand new cars have character.
Aaand again, I am obviously biased and this is only my opinion..
I was just asking if other people on here felt the same.
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I kinda agree on the owner creating character, but that also in a way disproves you saying brand new cars have character.Originally posted by Kielan View PostI sit in old cars from one to another and get the same feeling.. Cars are made in periods and generally follow general specific styles.
Cars take on the character of their owner, they themselves inherently have no character. It's their owner that makes the car what it is, not the car itself.
Cool a biased article is your way of backing up your point.
Aaand again, I am obviously biased and this is only my opinion..
I was just asking if other people on here felt the same.
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I sit in old cars from one to another and get the same feeling.. Cars are made in periods and generally follow general specific styles.Originally posted by M M View PostIt's not so much that they feel the same, but the fact that the differences are not very big (to me anyway). Sitting in different cars of the same model with older cars, each one feels different, whereas with the new ones I have been in, they're all the same (a bit obvious but you get my point). This is what I think the character thing is that is being referred to. Obviously different cars will feel different on the road, I never said they wouldn't whether new or old but it's just not the same. I guess you could say everything is toned down. Maybe it's just when you get used to driving older cars you can't pick up on the "small" differences of the newer cars that easy.
Cars take on the character of their owner, they themselves inherently have no character. It's their owner that makes the car what it is, not the car itself.
Cool a biased article is your way of backing up your point.Originally posted by SheaMoose View Post
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I never said on the road.Originally posted by Kielan View PostIf you're saying that a new BMW feels the same as a new Audi on the road or any other manufacturer to manufacturer, it's safe to say you have no idea what you are talking about.
Just the general feel.
And it's my opinion.
Not a proven fact.
I have a love for all cars in one way or another, it's just that old cars really do it for me, and well, new cars don't do it so much.
Andd...
jussayin'
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It's not so much that they feel the same, but the fact that the differences are not very big (to me anyway). Sitting in different cars of the same model with older cars, each one feels different, whereas with the new ones I have been in, they're all the same (a bit obvious but you get my point). This is what I think the character thing is that is being referred to. Obviously different cars will feel different on the road, I never said they wouldn't whether new or old but it's just not the same. I guess you could say everything is toned down. Maybe it's just when you get used to driving older cars you can't pick up on the "small" differences of the newer cars that easy.Originally posted by Kielan View PostIf you're saying that a new BMW feels the same as a new Audi on the road or any other manufacturer to manufacturer, it's safe to say you have no idea what you are talking about.Last edited by M M; 06-07-2013, 04:26 PM.
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If you're saying that a new BMW feels the same as a new Audi on the road or any other manufacturer to manufacturer, it's safe to say you have no idea what you are talking about.
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