Inability to enjoy new cars..

[Kielan]

I would have to disagree, having driven a number of new cars recently and driving their older counterparts. New cars are just as much fun to drive.

I feel a lot of people throw the word "character" around far too much. Because your car doesn't track straight, or drives like shit doesn't mean it has "character" it means that it's a piece of shit. Having a car that's beat up doesn't give it "character". Sure can I see what people are getting at in terms of new car design being less "stimulating" sure. However there are still a ton of new cars on the road that look absolutely fantastic.

The great thing about traction control is, you can turn it off. Do you get more feel through through a mechanical rack? Sure, but how many of you will actually notice a difference when you're really going for it, I bet the numbers are low. People bitch about the 991 having electric steering, 99% of those people, have never even driven a 991.

The most fun I've had in a car in the past year was in my friends 2012 B8 S4. Sure its FBO, and has a few suspension mods, but it is an absolute blast to drive.

[NickBroderick]

I miss the feel of my B5 over my C5.

I know that feel, to a degree!

[Khalil]

I know that feel.

Although I do love my M3. The last bmw to have any kind of character behind it.

[Rusker]

I feel the same way, and say this all the time.

For example, I took a test drive when the 08 STi came out and it wasn't as raw as my 05. Granted my STi is far from stock but I felt more detached from the car when driving the 08. It wasn't a huge difference, but it seems to be the trend with newer cars.

[P78]

new car smell > all tho

but yeah, they all look the same and have lil character, or you have to be at the high end cars

[FunkyWagon]

i would say 90's cars had the perfect balance between mechanical and electronic/computerized implementations, even tho a few cars were made with way too many electronics for the time.

i just don't like that there is so much reliance on computers (in every aspect of our lives today actually) that run them and makes the cars maintenance and repair much more expensive and more complicated for the guys who like to get their hand dirty and enjoy working on their cars themselves, you need to be a borderline computer programer to work on some newer cars, simply changing a few minor parts makes all sorts of lights go off on the dash without an "update" or some sort of reset.

Mechanical linkage > Electronic throttle control

[DutchStance]

Define "New"? I always say i won't own a car that's been build after 2000. The "best" and most beautifull cars were built in the 90'.

[mrg7243]

I honestly can't think of a new car that I would enjoy owning.
I can't get farther than "That looks pretty good" or "Wow, that's fast".
They just have no personality, and it feels like you're not even driving a car.

Does anybody understand what I'm trying to get accross?
Or am I the only one who would rather have carburetors, manual steering, brakes, and transmission, over heated seats, abs, and tcs?

ABS is smart you really dont engage it unless it is needed, carburetors suck poor mpg, pain in the ass to tune properly, suck for winter starts, I could go on.

Heated seats were invented in the 50s and many high end luxury cars had them optional starting in the 70s.

Even if you take the electronic controlled stuff. Newer suspensions are worlds better, engines are designed better with more power for the efficiency and size.

Yes the feel may not be the same as it is a more refined vehicle, the computer systems may be more complicated not being as forgiving on mods, the interior may be more plush but cars are not designed for people like you in mind they are looking for the average consumer. Its just to what you are used to.

[Randomofodication]

Yes! Haha I feel the same thing. New cars seem to have lost the personality and quirks older cars had. Also I can't stand how most newer cars have a giant sheet of plastic in the engine bay to cover the engine.

[Nick475]

Nailed it.

[SheaMoose]

I honestly can't think of a new car that I would enjoy owning.
I can't get farther than "That looks pretty good" or "Wow, that's fast".
They just have no personality, and it feels like you're not even driving a car.

Does anybody understand what I'm trying to get accross?
Or am I the only one who would rather have carburetors, manual steering, brakes, and transmission, over heated seats, abs, and tcs?