the end of manual

[wickedsnake00]

I hear the G56 has oil temp issues under load. That aside, I love the way they feel when shifting. They're the most float-friendly synchronized truck trans I've ever driven.

I haven't seen any temperature issues yet, even when towing.

My only gripes are the long throw and that it's tough to pop out of reverse when it's very cold out.

Otherwise she's smooth as butter.

You could buy a car that is form the 50s and it would probably still have an original working manual gearbox.
But buying an Auto car that is 10years old is like taking a gamble when will the box shit itself and cost you money.

It depends.

My 43 year old TH350 still shifts smooth as can be. My old 31TH ran like a champ after 10 years.

However my only 10 year old 41TE (electronically controlled) decided to catestrophically fail, and not even from the electronics. Just like all the others it decided it would transform the pump into chunks of steel.

Design is the important factor. A manual transmission with a weak OD gear, weak shift forks is just as likely to bite the dust as an auto with problematic bands or valves.

[180roman]

Manual is the cheapest and most reliable gearbox you can get.
You could buy a car that is form the 50s and it would probably still have an original working manual gearbox.
But buying an Auto car that is 10years old is like taking a gamble when will the box shit itself and cost you money.

With more electronics and more expensive things like DSG is just more things that could go wrong, and they will go wrong with age, so I predict the DSG cars will have a worse resale value over a proper manual once they have some miles on the clock.

[Daviticus]

... Well, that and the good 'ol MB G56 won't blow up like the Chrysler 68RFE will. ...

I hear the G56 has oil temp issues under load. That aside, I love the way they feel when shifting. They're the most float-friendly synchronized truck trans I've ever driven.

[FunkyWagon]

i originally ***** my r56 for not having a manual, but it grew on me, when in LA during rush hour its a breeze... when i want to thrash it around i flip on "sport mode" and use the -/+ or the flappy shifters.

i do miss a manual and would take it over the auto CVT, i just drive around thinking to myself that i have a "clutchless manual transmission".

but manual is the way to go.

[1988montecarloss]

I did my part. I bought the only heavy duty pickup to still offer the manual option, and I love it. Feels like a truck should, and is far more effective for towing. Well, that and the good 'ol MB G56 won't blow up like the Chrysler 68RFE will.

Sad part is I had to custom order it from the factory to get it. Otherwise the nearest manual, not even close to the specs I would like, was over 500 miles away.

cummins powered dodge???

[wickedsnake00]

I did my part. I bought the only heavy duty pickup to still offer the manual option, and I love it. Feels like a truck should, and is far more effective for towing. Well, that and the good 'ol MB G56 won't blow up like the Chrysler 68RFE will.

Sad part is I had to custom order it from the factory to get it. Otherwise the nearest manual, not even close to the specs I would like, was over 500 miles away.

[1988montecarloss]

reverse manual valve body with a transbrake in an automatic is where its at

but you need something powerful for that haha

standards are best in nutless daily driver type stuff though

[M0ar.Stickers]

you mean only time it ever finds it's way into an m3?

I'm pretty sure that's what I said.

[SuperMegaDeathRay]

my girl loves riding back roads with me, downshifts, engine braking, steering with some throttle then banging through the gears....
she keeps asking me to teach her, im like, BITCH, this clutch is NEW

my girl is complaining about my drivestyle...when i'm engine braking she's like "you're just as stupid as all the other fucksticks"......damn girl..just get your fuckstick outta your a...it's a way increase fuel efficiency...

[mohsen]

live by the manual
die by the manual.
MANUAL BOXES 4 LYF

[Rebounder]

that pretty much sums up my argument for the way the auto industry is being influenced by lawmakers both home and abroad. also, the reason why i might buy my M3 after lease. the way BMW is heading with their twin turbo 4 cylinder as a base model (at least in the US) for their cars bothers me. BMW had its heritage based in high performance racecars only produced for homoligation, (M1 and e30M) i am willing to bet that my M will be the last time a naturally aspirated V8 finds itself in an M3... and that saddens me.

you mean only time it ever finds it's way into an m3?

[Alexridesabike]

Overall I prefer manual but automatic isn't bad depending on the car. I can't afford and don't want most newer cars so its not a big deal honestly.

[devon.818]

While I give a ton of credit to the new technology and innovation that goes into cars and makes them shift lightning fast, it will never, ever match the satisfaction you get from rowing your own gears.

Any fool can get in a car and pull back a video game lever to change gears. Watching a skilled driver heel-toe and rev-match while banging gears is just art in motion.

my girl loves riding back roads with me, downshifts, engine braking, steering with some throttle then banging through the gears....
she keeps asking me to teach her, im like, BITCH, this clutch is NEW

[Exami]

Full on manual! it just feels more driving, kinda more involved. Manual over automatic anyday!

[M0ar.Stickers]

if google and other companies have it their way, in 20 years we'll be riding (not driving) in autonomous cars. although my wife loves her mini cooper, she would trade in a heartbeat for a self driving Prius (not because she likes Prius'). then driving wouldn't get in the way of texting and facebook.

Jay Leno made a comment once that sports cars will eventually go the way of the horse: horses were standard transportation for everyone 100 years ago, but now it is a luxury few can afford.

that pretty much sums up my argument for the way the auto industry is being influenced by lawmakers both home and abroad. also, the reason why i might buy my M3 after lease. the way BMW is heading with their twin turbo 4 cylinder as a base model (at least in the US) for their cars bothers me. BMW had its heritage based in high performance racecars only produced for homoligation, (M1 and e30M) i am willing to bet that my M will be the last time a naturally aspirated V8 finds itself in an M3... and that saddens me.