"stance movement is now fading away" - Linhbergh Nguyen

[Kielan]

Wether the stance movement dies out or lives on makes no difference to me. I just don't agree with the fact that it has started to fade away, if anything, I think it's rapidly gaining speed. Take a look at Australia, New Zealand, Russia, Iceland, and what about the variety of platforms that we're seeing now (AMG mercedes, Ferrari's, mini vans, etc).

A big problem with Americans is that we usually only see stuff as how it affects us. Perhaps the stance movement doesn't have the initial buzz that it once did, but in other places that buzz is at its peak or yet to occur. America isn't the center of everything, as much as we'd like to believe it is.

And I agree with you 100%, Linhberh's statement has zero affect on people driving cars with excellent fitment at the limits of ride height. That being said, I think he has his facts wrong.

Ok, so what does that even matter? He stated an opinion. You have yours.. I don't see the point to going on about it?

[KJK]

Who actually cares though. So what if the movement is dying out... Its not stopping you from driving a car with excellent fitment thats really low...

I am more than happy to see the bandwagon ending.

Wether the stance movement dies out or lives on makes no difference to me. I just don't agree with the fact that it has started to fade away, if anything, I think it's rapidly gaining speed. Take a look at Australia, New Zealand, Russia, Iceland, and what about the variety of platforms that we're seeing now (AMG mercedes, Ferrari's, mini vans, etc).

A big problem with Americans is that we usually only see stuff as how it affects us. Perhaps the stance movement doesn't have the initial buzz that it once did, but in other places that buzz is at its peak or yet to occur. America isn't the center of everything, as much as we'd like to believe it is.

And I agree with you 100%, Linhberh's statement has zero affect on people driving cars with excellent fitment at the limits of ride height. That being said, I think he has his facts wrong.

[SeanDub]

Yea yea it's been around forever... fact is its been trending hard for about 1.5-2 years now and I can't wait for these trendy fucks to move on.

[Han]

Could you maybe explain what you were talking about, because I'm a bit lost. Maybe I miss-interpreted your original post.

The whole "stance" thing has been around for about 20 years, especially in Europe/Asia where the laws are more strict than the states. The whole "stretch and poke" thing where it is commonly used in the aggressive wheel and tire fitment themes ("stance") developed from there due to said laws. People wanted lower and wider, but still within the "laws".

[SeanDub]

God I hope he's right.

[Oxer]

I just feel that Linhbergh's statement was false. Everywhere I look the "stance movement" seems to be gaining momentum. Nothing against Linhbergh at all, I love reading and viewing his work, but I thought this might get some people fired up. Apparently not. Either way, I'm glad I could spread the word a bit and at the very least hear some opinions on the matter. It's interesting to see how different people look at this statement.

Dude, the 'movement' was picking up momentum in '09..... its 2011....


What word are you spreading exactly? You took something way out of context, and are trying to preach.

Stance isnt a religion.

[KJK]

That wasn't what I was talking about.

Could you maybe explain what you were talking about, because I'm a bit lost. Maybe I miss-interpreted your original post.

[KJK]

I just feel that Linhbergh's statement was false. Everywhere I look the "stance movement" seems to be gaining momentum. Nothing against Linhbergh at all, I love reading and viewing his work, but I thought this might get some people fired up. Apparently not. Either way, I'm glad I could spread the word a bit and at the very least hear some opinions on the matter. It's interesting to see how different people look at this statement.

[Kielan]

Who actually cares though. So what if the movement is dying out... Its not stopping you from driving a car with excellent fitment thats really low...

I am more than happy to see the bandwagon ending.

[Han]

There are other places for the stance movement to grow besides Europe. What about Asia, the America's, Australia, etc. The UK is generally accepted as a part of Europe (which you imply cannot develop a stance scene due to laws), yet there was just a very successful meet in Milton Keynes:

http://www.stanceworks.com/2011/02/stanceworks-uk/

The Austrians have also put out some amazing stuff, and they are a part of Europe as well. Look around, I think you'll be pretty surprised.

That wasn't what I was talking about.

[Han]

There's a difference between "stance" and "stance movement".

While "stance" has been around for ages ( even old hot rodders paid attention to it back when building custom buckets), it solely existed as an element that went into building a car. It wasn't until recently that a "movement" formed around our fascination with the stance of a car. Blogs, discussions, clubs, and shows started popping up with stance as the main focus and it became a "movement" or style of its own. It's not out of line to say that the stance movement is only 2-3 years old even though stance itself has been around for longer than most of us have been alive.

The movement itself is bound to fade away, but that doesn't mean stance and wheel fitment will fade from our interests as enthusiasts. It just means that it won't be a mainstream trend and will return to being a key element in the way we modify our cars. I for one don't see this as being an issue. I will continue running a slammed car and living the low lifestyle.

Okay, I have to agree with you there. Stance and stance movement is not the same, but the way the article was written meant as "stance" in general.

[KJK]

I wasn't aware that the "stance" movement had gone anywhere in the last 20 years due to Europe's laws on tires being outside the fenders?

There are other places for the stance movement to grow besides Europe. What about Asia, the America's, Australia, etc. The UK is generally accepted as a part of Europe (which you imply cannot develop a stance scene due to laws), yet there was just a very successful meet in Milton Keynes:

http://www.stanceworks.com/2011/02/stanceworks-uk/

The Austrians have also put out some amazing stuff, and they are a part of Europe as well. Look around, I think you'll be pretty surprised.

[Rally]

So, sorry that there aren't 23109802348028423042 more blogs about this shit, but they need to know how this whole "stance" thing we refer to came from. Idiots. It's been around for 15-20 years, goddamnit.

There's a difference between "stance" and "stance movement".

While "stance" has been around for ages ( even old hot rodders paid attention to it back when building custom buckets), it solely existed as an element that went into building a car. It wasn't until recently that a "movement" formed around our fascination with the stance of a car. Blogs, discussions, clubs, and shows started popping up with stance as the main focus and it became a "movement" or style of its own. It's not out of line to say that the stance movement is only 2-3 years old even though stance itself has been around for longer than most of us have been alive.

The movement itself is bound to fade away, but that doesn't mean stance and wheel fitment will fade from our interests as enthusiasts. It just means that it won't be a mainstream trend and will return to being a key element in the way we modify our cars. I for one don't see this as being an issue. I will continue running a slammed car and living the low lifestyle.

[Oxer]

I read something very disturbing in a speedhunters write up just a few minutes ago, and immediately decided to help spread some awareness about this false statement.

Ok, who is we? What leads you to believe this (I believe just the opposite)? And for everyone reading this, how are we going to set the record straight?

If you read these 2 lines repeatedly, You almost laugh as hard as Kielan shitting himself and vomiting in his trashcan hahahahahaahahhahhahahahhahahahahahahaaa

Who cares what Linhberg thinks?

Of course the bandwagon is nearing the end of its shelf life. It's gone from foreign, to underground, to baller, to overdone, to being supported by the entry-level aftermarket. That's usually when things are about to die off.

Just waiting for the next trend.