"stance movement is now fading away" - Linhbergh Nguyen

[KJK]

It also makes people go to too far imo.

Definitely, but even before there was incentive people still went too far.

[KJK]

When the people that just wanna be e-famous start dwindling away then it leaves a majority of people that are passionate about it.

What's wrong with the people that want to be e-famous? I don't have that desire, but I don't see how they hurt anybody. They contribute to the scene, and I love to see their cars.

[eskimopunk]

If there is no competition, then why do all the blogs and sites (including this one) give the most credit to the lowest, the flushest, the craziest platforms, the unthinkable builds? They are giving incentive for the builders (us) to go lower, sit flusher, think the unthinkable, and this incentive leads to some great cars. Without it, the scene wouldn't be at the same standard.

It also makes people go to too far imo.

[KJK]

If you are doing this all to "stand out" and its "competitive" then you are doing this for all the wrong reasons. All the "quality" builds that are out there, are from the guys who won't stop building cars like this, the people who aren't just on the bandwagon. Those builds aren't going anywhere. That's a fact.

Competition may breed excellence, but I can't say I know 1 person who really builds their car, solely so that they can out do someone else (talking about stance here not about racing). They do it because its what they love, the love challenging themselves. Not because it will make them well known or e-famous.

If there is no competition, then why do all the blogs and sites (including this one) give the most credit to the lowest, the flushest, the craziest platforms, the unthinkable builds? They are giving incentive for the builders (us) to go lower, sit flusher, think the unthinkable, and this incentive leads to some great cars. Without it, the scene wouldn't be at the same standard.

[Average_Jerk]

*cough rusted hoods on a 1 year old car and a roof rack cough*

whats wrong with a rusted hood on a mk6 jetta and a roof rack?

[smoky0937]

if people keep doing what they love doing, then this whole thing is here for the long haul. let interwebs say what it will, it means nothing.

[Han]

*cough rusted hoods on a 1 year old car and a roof rack cough*

[Kielan]

When the people that just wanna be e-famous start dwindling away then it leaves a majority of people that are passionate about it.

I completely agree. Its those people the "bandwagoners" that take away from the real quality out there, and ruin the style for everyone else.

[eskimopunk]

If you are doing this all to "stand out" and its "competitive" then you are doing this for all the wrong reasons. All the "quality" builds that are out there, are from the guys who won't stop building cars like this, the people who aren't just on the bandwagon. Those builds aren't going anywhere. That's a fact.

Competition may breed excellence, but I can't say I know 1 person who really builds their car, solely so that they can out do someone else (talking about stance here not about racing). They do it because its what they love, the love challenging themselves. Not because it will make them well known or e-famous.

When the people that just wanna be e-famous start dwindling away then it leaves a majority of people that are passionate about it.

[Kielan]

If you are doing this all to "stand out" and its "competitive" then you are doing this for all the wrong reasons. All the "quality" builds that are out there, are from the guys who won't stop building cars like this, the people who aren't just on the bandwagon. Those builds aren't going anywhere. That's a fact.

Competition may breed excellence, but I can't say I know 1 person who really builds their car, solely so that they can out do someone else (talking about stance here not about racing). They do it because its what they love, the love challenging themselves. Not because it will make them well known or e-famous.

[KJK]

Ok, so what does that even matter? He stated an opinion. You have yours.. I don't see the point to going on about it?

I don't think that is an opinion. When there are numbers involved there is enough hard evidence to support a fact. The "stance movement" is measured as a ratio by the number of stanced cars per drivers now as opposed to the number of stanced cars per drivers in the past. If more stanced cars are being produced in the same time frame as before, than the movement is accelerating.

I like the fact that the stance scene is competitive and it's hard to stand out. If it was really fading away, that would make everything easier. We wouldn't see the same quality or number of builds that we do now. Competition breeds excellence, just take a look at production cars! I want to keep the movement thriving for as long as possible, and Linhbergh's statement just seemed depressing. That's why I was going on about it.

[eskimopunk]

I don't doubt the roots of "stance", and to be honest, I was not aware that the laws shaped the scene. However, I simply believe that Linhbergh has his facts wrong, see my response to Kielan. I would love to hear your opinion on my thoughts.

It's hard to actually place what shaped the scene, whether it be the laws in places like europe, the hot rodders or the lowrider and mini trucking guys 30 years ago... People were looking for a solution and they found it.

But, like any car scene, it's not going anywhere. Shit, I still see people with neon underglow and fart cans that fast and the furious helped make so popular.

[eskimopunk]

Yea yea it's been around forever... fact is its been trending hard for about 1.5-2 years now and I can't wait for these trendy fucks to move on.

Blame the internet. It's the only reason it got so popular this time.

[Kielan]

Why can't anyone spell my name, its right there in front of you.

[KJK]

The whole "stance" thing has been around for about 20 years, especially in Europe/Asia where the laws are more strict than the states. The whole "stretch and poke" thing where it is commonly used in the aggressive wheel and tire fitment themes ("stance") developed from there due to said laws. People wanted lower and wider, but still within the "laws".

I don't doubt the roots of "stance", and to be honest, I was not aware that the laws shaped the scene. However, I simply believe that Linhbergh has his facts wrong, see my response to Kielan. I would love to hear your opinion on my thoughts.