Could the end be near?.........(Serious Discussion) Opinions welcome

[Oxer]

Not sure what you're on about.

They also run their respective countries. Anarchy would be 400x worse than any current civilized countrie's government.

It's individual politicians who are out to make a name for themselves.

I would debate that, Because governments before ones thesedays put in place measures to control the population (eg. police authorities) along with other individual groups which gover theings like roads, hospitals, etc. etc.

These days the government gets a hell of a lot more "kick backs" from these organisations which were put in place.

The governments of today simply run what previous ones have put in place... As an example, In Australia's last election, both parties made all the promises to change so many things and bring in all these new legislations to help ease things like the financial crisis among a list that wouldn't fit in one post. The 'winning team' has literally come through with none of it.

The bitch just stands there and talks through her ass, shes a puppet. Instead the reserve bank put interest up and no taxes were eased. A couple years ago when the financial crisis hit our shores, the prime minister at the time, Rudd, gave every tax payer between $6-900. People were wrapped, went out, spent it, it was meant to boost the economy. Where the fuck did the money come from, and how were they going to pay it all back? Tax.

If you seriously believe all the bullshit the government feeds you, you seriously need to broaden your view.

I would debate that, Because governments before ones thesedays put in place measures to control the population (eg. police authorities) along with other individual groups which gover theings like roads, hospitals, etc. etc.

These days the government gets a hell of a lot more "kick backs" from these organisations which were put in place.

Not sure what you're on about.

[Oxer]

I would debate that, Because governments before ones thesedays put in place measures to control the population (eg. police authorities) along with other individual groups which gover theings like roads, hospitals, etc. etc.

These days the government gets a hell of a lot more "kick backs" from these organisations which were put in place.

[Lt. Dangle]

Not gunna lie, if there is an earthquake and over react, and run your deathmachine or whatever, I will laugh my ass off.

Ha me too. I'm not going to ride it out til the last minute and if real shit started popping off, i'll be coming to a neighborhood near you, very quickly. haha

If shit doesn't pop off, it will just be another night of failed attempts, and successful 160 pulls.

Governments are fucked, They are only out to try and make the most profit they can.

They also run their respective countries. Anarchy would be 400x worse than any current civilized countrie's government.

It's individual politicians who are out to make a name for themselves.

[Oxer]

Governments are fucked, They are only out to try and make the most profit they can, and in doing so make the most rediculous decisions and waste a lot more then they profit.

As if the governments of the world truley have peoples best interests in mind... pfft. It would be on their list of priorities, but it sure as hell isnt number 1.

[Rogue86]

What International Governments do behind closed doors is probably best left there. Just because we're "civilised" based on the fact we have television and fast food, doesn't mean that the Government acts in the peoples best interests. The world revolves around keeping one man in his job, and that man at the moment is Obama. All decisions based on going to war, and pulling out of it, are based on keeping that mans popularity high, and keeping him on the podium for the next election.

[Anonymoose]

no one on this site works for the government, the government knows more about the world then we will ever know. there are soo many questions un answered that they have answers for but will not give because we cant handle the truth. i wouldnt be surprised what information they keep from us because to be honest if they did people would loose their mind.

^This. They would not let a program air on television that says they plotted anything but what they want you to believe. I'm also not on either side but I'm an engineer and as far as the 9/11 thing goes, buildings do not collapse like the towers did. Period. There is not fucking way they would crumble like that even if the top half was cut off by the spagetti monster. I'm saying I would not be suprised if 9/11, the oil drilling (not the act of drilling as a plot, but the events that unfolded once it happened), or many other disasters have had the governments involvement. Your naive if you believe that they wouldn't terrible things for money and power. Whoever said it, just look at history.

[J.Wolfe]

no one on this site works for the government, the government knows more about the world then we will ever know. there are soo many questions un answered that they have answers for but will not give because we cant handle the truth. i wouldnt be surprised what information they keep from us because to be honest if they did people would loose their mind.

im not on sides, but i wouldn't be surprised if 2012 is as serious as some think. i mean if its gonna end sure as hell the government wont tell us because people would be going crazy and doing anything they want cause why else would they live under rule of something for no reason in the end. all im saying is the goverment is WAY more knowledgeable then we could ever imagine, and they know whats good with aliens, ufo's, oil spills, everything...even the supposed ending of the world. but we wont know till it happens, so just live life as they want us to

[schroedin]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/05/2011-01-05_dead_birds_found_in_louisiana_explained_but_some_still_fear_apocalype_is_coming.html

The Louisiana mass bird deaths come hand in hand with news that scores of fish were found dead in Maryland's Chesapeake Bay while 100,000 fresh water drum fish suddenly died in the Arkansas River, 100 tons of dead fish were discovered in Brazil and dead birds dropped from the sky in Arkansas.

http://www.twitvid.com/S1W7G

Thousands of birds just swarmed us outside our hotel in Oklahoma City, OK

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/424334/wtf_more_dead_birds_fall_from_the_sky_in_sweden,_chile,_kentucky_--_dead_fish_keep_washing_ashore/

A more recent report by the Baltimore Sun places the fish kill in the Chesapeake Bay as high as Two Million. So far no one has blamed the dead fish on fireworks, so that's something for which the fireworks industry can take comfort.

Whatever is going on, shits crazy. 2 million fish dead in what is essentially my backyard? Not good at all.

[NegativeCamber]

yea i understand, but I'm not ruling it out because of some faith I have in the government, I'm ruling it out based on evidence and analysis of evidence made by experts. At the same time though, staging a military attack against a communist country is not the same as killing 3000 American civilians, but I do understand your point, they aren't saints that solely have the good of the people in mind. They are indeed far from that.

Correct me if I'm wrong but from my understanding the Tonkin incident was basically whatever intelligence agency involved covering its own ass for mistakes they made, which led to misinformation to the president and then that act was passed so we could do military operations in Vietnam without declaring war, or something like that, I dont know much about it.

yes, i agree about the evidence part and i see where you are coming from now. i do admit, the rabbit hole is so deep with these issues. i'll give the cliffs. the gulf of tonkin incident was a staged event by our gov in which it initially had released an "official" story that we had undergone an unprovoked attack. in reality, the event never happened, but it essentially was the turning point in which 60k americans would be sent to be killed in the vietnam war. so yes, the gov is responsible for american deaths by becoming involved unjustly and indirectly killed its own though a lie.

[prod0660]

The tunkin golf resolution gave the president to power to use conventional military force with out declaring war, aka * legally can do w.e the phuck you want *

[Tuck&Poke]

im not comparing the two incidents. im discussing that one particular statement and how it relates to history. it is on record that the gov has staged events/carried out false flags for a particular motivation, at the cost of human lives. to state that you cant fathom our own gov to do such a despicable act is not a correct way to look at it. although there isnt enough evidence to state that was the case for the recent attacks, you cannot rule it out just because it would shatter your paradigm.

yea i understand, but I'm not ruling it out because of some faith I have in the government, I'm ruling it out based on evidence and analysis of evidence made by experts. At the same time though, staging a military attack against a communist country is not the same as killing 3000 American civilians, but I do understand your point, they aren't saints that solely have the good of the people in mind. They are indeed far from that.

Correct me if I'm wrong but from my understanding the Tonkin incident was basically whatever intelligence agency involved covering its own ass for mistakes they made, which led to misinformation to the president and then that act was passed so we could do military operations in Vietnam without declaring war, or something like that, I dont know much about it.

[NegativeCamber]

What about those two incidents is similar?

im not comparing the two incidents. im discussing that one particular statement and how it relates to history. it is on record that the gov has staged events/carried out false flags for a particular motivation, at the cost of human lives. to state that you cant fathom our own gov to do such a despicable act is not a correct way to look at it. although there isnt enough evidence to state that was the case for the recent attacks, you cannot rule it out just because it would shatter your paradigm.

[Tuck&Poke]

What about those two incidents is similar?