Adapters Thread, need good info!

[simsima325]

i should probably add, her car is stock, save for some 6000k headlamps i put in :lmao:

it would remain stock most likely, aside from these wheels. and 225/45/17 is not stanced on a 7.5in rim :lmao:

going to go with a 215/40 for the next tires, sliiiiightly better.

[FreshLikeSushi]

The thickness of said adapter will lover the offset by whatever thickness it is. They make 15mm and larger adapters. 20mm is the "standard" of being the thinnest, but most consistently "safe" thickness.

Adapters are safe if they are torqued down correctly and are both HUB AND WHEEL centric.

Dont agree here
Your wheels, and lug nuts, and lugs all come together, when TQed properly to center the wheel. You do NOT need hubcentric stuff. Ive been running huge wheels on the road, track, super low, super high, NEVER in my life used hubcentric spacers, and never had any vibes, problems, or anything else.

I personally use 20mm adapter spacers on my last subaru. worked like a champ. some wheels you will have to trim the extra lug nut on it.
On the rear of my Van, i had to put the spacer on, tighten it down, and shop off all the wheel studs past the spacer to put my current wheels on, so be aware if they are more than one bolt pattern, you may run into those problems.

That being said. i agree with everyone else. if installed correctly, they are fine. i use the hell outta em

i see whats his face discussed it above, so i wont beat a dead horse

[Han]

Right, I never said anything about the lugs/studs not centering the wheel. The hub bore is what holds the bulk of the stress when driving. If hub bores and hub-centric wheels weren't needed, car manufacturers and wheel companies wouldn't make a specific hub bore for each car. It not only holds the bulk of the stress, but it ALSO centers the wheel and keeps it centered. Again, I'd rather have the hub bore/centerbore be the one taking the stress than the lugs/studs.

[FreshLikeSushi]

do you have coilovers/lowering springs?

[Han]

do you have coilovers/lowering springs?

He said her car is stock.

[FreshLikeSushi]

im asking YOU

[Han]

im asking YOU

Yes, I have coilovers, why?

[simsima325]

I guess I will also need a heck of a hubcentric ring, as the bore on the honda is thinner than in the bmw wheel. unless custom adapters will be made specifically to mate with the bore of the honda on one side, and the bmw on the other?

[FreshLikeSushi]

Right, I never said anything about the lugs/studs not centering the wheel. The hub bore is what holds the bulk of the stress when driving. If hub bores and hub-centric wheels weren't needed, car manufacturers and wheel companies wouldn't make a specific hub bore for each car. It not only holds the bulk of the stress, but it ALSO centers the wheel and keeps it centered. Again, I'd rather have the hub bore/centerbore be the one taking the stress than the lugs/studs.

Dont you think that if the car was meant to be lower, the OEM MFG would do it? Becuase a vehicle isnt meant to oeprate at XX height?

Im illustrating here, that any change to a vehicle, other htan from an OEM Mfg could create a hastle.

I mean, if you want to bring up the old debate about if you use spacers wheel bearings will wear prematurely we can. But the fact is, its the price we pay. We do things EVERYDAY with parts that arent meant to be done.

Simply changing wheels is a change in everything. unless its the exact same weight, etc etc.

It is kind of a tangent, but its just to show that OEMs over make everything pretty much. if they are laying there, should you use hte rings? Sure, but they arent a nececsity.

[Stephen]

I guess I will also need a heck of a hubcentric ring, as the bore on the honda is thinner than in the bmw wheel. unless custom adapters will be made specifically to mate with the bore of the honda on one side, and the bmw on the other?

They can be yea. You mean the wheel hub bore is smaller than the car?

[Stephen]

Dont you think that if the car was meant to be lower, the OEM MFG would do it? Becuase a vehicle isnt meant to oeprate at XX height?

Im illustrating here, that any change to a vehicle, other htan from an OEM Mfg could create a hastle.

I mean, if you want to bring up the old debate about if you use spacers wheel bearings will wear prematurely we can. But the fact is, its the price we pay. We do things EVERYDAY with parts that arent meant to be done.

Simply changing wheels is a change in everything. unless its the exact same weight, etc etc.

It is kind of a tangent, but its just to show that OEMs over make everything pretty much. if they are laying there, should you use hte rings? Sure, but they arent a nececsity.

That, and there are non- hubcentric OEM things, and companies that make non hubcentric wheels (DR steelies)

Regardless, if youre having them made, no reason not to go all out. Especially since its not your car

[Han]

. if they are laying there, should you use hte rings? Sure, but they arent a nececsity.

And that's why I said I wouldn't personally run non hubcentric/wheelcentric adapters and/or wheels. You can do whatever you'd like but I personally would keep my POTENTIAL issues at bay. I am not saying you HAVE to, but obviously it could only be beneficial in the end.

It is kind of weird to see you with that viewpoint because it seemed to me you are pretty meticulous as far as mods go.

[Stephen]

Yep yep. Doesnt appear OP has any budget, time, or other restrictions so go ahead and go hubcentric

[simsima325]

No i mean the BMW bore is larger than honda. A ring would be necessary even if they were the same lug pattern.

[FreshLikeSushi]

eh, just cause it looks pretty, doesnt mean it really is.
I do some pretty extreme stuff, from relocating strut mounts, swapping competely different subframes to be able to run lower offsets, changing complete suspension setups from other cars

I do things so they work, as safe as i can. safe=good.
Not having hubcentrics isnt unsafe. if the wheels are horrible knockoffs, thats your fault. buy quality wheels, and you wont need bandaids