Which Brand is "Doing Work" In The Stance Scene?

[tivs31]

My inspiration was always VW based, and from what I've seen the start of it all began with VW's...

I remember back in 2000 when I started, there were tons of people talking about going "low" and wide.

The whole tire stretch issue stems from a law in the TUV rules, stating that none of the tread of a tire can be outside of the fender of any car. Hence why people started to stretch tires to fit a lower offset wheel to still conform to TUV standards, which are checked annually and at police stops.

It has since been done in drifting and such to give a firmer more consistent sidewall to help drift cars be consistently on the edge and in control.

In looking at Vw's lately, I see a whole lot of low, but honestly not that much wide (in the mark 5>), but in the JDM scene there is a terrific balance, which makes me feel warm and fuzzy all over, so kudos for that .

[punkhop83]

i vote euro!
euro's pushed the limits...

[Fusion]

Anyone remember these?

[Dangler]

2004 ? ..

sorry i guess 6 years ago isn't long enough for you.....in the car world alot changes in 1 year let alone 6.

and that black mk3 has been around for at least since '91 (last year they were made in Europe, was 1998) so that car could be anywhere from 12 to 19 years old.


point is, that this style has been a part of VW's for a while. that's all cheif

[I.CON]

The Euro guys been doing it since the 80's. Japan caught on shortly after.

There are different guidelines for each scene. Poke might be considered cool in the VW crowd but gets frowed upon by the hardcore VIP guys. Now a days, perfectly flush fitment (where the lip of the wheel rests on the edge of the fender when parked) is not popular in the Japanese scene. Thats more of a drift "hella flush" thing. Slightly tucking is whats popular in the Japanese VIP scene because you can drive at low heights that way

[NELSON09]

I think Euro guys (as a whole) were doing what's "in" now a long time ago (stretch, slam,poke, etc) Voted "other"

[geminidubber]

I think Euro guys (as a whole) were doing what's "in" now a long time ago (stretch, slam,poke, etc) Voted "other"

agreed.

[Split]

agreed.

same here

[PavelK313]

Stretch, slam, poke, is purely European thing. VW's are the cheapest euro cars you can buy in US and that is the reason why VW's are leading brand in this department.

I think I need level 10 flame resistant suit! lol

[vbrad26]

if you ain't rubbin' you ain't dubbin...

[loneStar22]

id say in the earlier days vw's had slam/poke/stretch, not neccesarily stance. drifters had stance. bmw's put that together and made stance. i cant decide. both the euros and the jdm crowd have been doing it

[aar0n.]

id say in the earlier days vw's had slam/poke/stretch, not neccesarily stance. drifters had stance. bmw's put that together and made stance. i cant decide. both the euros and the jdm crowd have been doing it

Lolwut?

[noVee]

Anyone remember these?

I definitely do.

Slammed/poked/stretched has been happening in SoCal since the early '60's. As someone else said, it's probably not brand-specific so much as region-specific.

[Tuck&Poke]

Dont take what I'm about to write the wrong way, this is a general statement, but you brought up something that a lot of people say so I'm just using it for quotes.

The whole tire stretch issue stems from a law in the TUV rules, stating that none of the tread of a tire can be outside of the fender of any car. Hence why people started to stretch tires to fit a lower offset wheel to still conform to TUV standards, which are checked annually and at police stops.

I don't stretch my tires because of a law saying that it cant stick out past the fender. I stretch them because if i don't I'm going to rub the shit out of them on the fender and i wont be able to turn, and i also wont be able to go as low. I'm 99.9% sure that's why anyone into fitment stretches tires, not because of some law where they live. This just seems like one of those word of mouth rumors or internet rumors that spread and everyone assumes is true. Yes that law does exist in A LOT of places including the US, but i don't think its responsible for any kind of fitment movement. And the reason why people go wide is because, how shitty does a slammed and fitted car look from the rear when its on 7.5 in wide wheels. Plus there is a larger selection of tires to choose from if your stretching onto a 9.5" or 10" or 11"

It has since been done in drifting and such to give a firmer more consistent sidewall to help drift cars be consistently on the edge and in control.

while this may be true and does make sense, some of the judging in drift events has to do with how a car looks, so a lot of these guys do mods that you may think are performance oriented, but its really just because it looks good. There are few things sexier than a fitted car 1" off the ground sliding around corners sideways at high speeds.


Why does fitment have to have started for some other reason than people realized that it looks good? That's why i got into it. Not for any other reason other than it looks fuckin hard.

/rant

[aar0n.]

^
That TUV thing dates back decades so it obviously wouldn't/shouldn't have any effect on why you stretch your tires in the States today