Domestic Violence

[daniel_lucian]

I don't get what's the fuzz about this cat. Okay, it low ... but that's pretty much all. There's no crazy fitment, body is banged up, interior looks like shit, zip tied plexiglas windshield (wtf ?!), horrible exhaust and so on. And above all, I keep seeing the phrase "I'm having fun driving this car" flying around. How can you have fun in a car that is basically impractical? Sure, we're all here for the love of lows and fitment but I don't think it's anything fun in having a car that gets stuck on every littlle road imperfection. To me, everything you do looks like a desperate need for attention.

[Anonymoose]

I don't get what's the fuzz about this cat. Okay, it low ... but that's pretty much all. There's no crazy fitment, body is banged up, interior looks like shit, zip tied plexiglas windshield (wtf ?!), horrible exhaust and so on. And above all, I keep seeing the phrase "I'm having fun driving this car" flying around. How can you have fun in a car that is basically impractical? Sure, we're all here for the love of lows and fitment but I don't think it's anything fun in having a car that gets stuck on every littlle road imperfection. To me, everything you do looks like a desperate need for attention.

I'm not sticking up for Fabel as there's no need but...

It probably isn't practical for someone who can't drive a low car but for someone who can, it's as practical as can be. That's the magic of this car and owner.

[JVC]

You have to meet Miles to have half a fucking clue to understand what's going on here. You'll see those of us that are "standing up" for him are people who know him personally. Once you meet Miles and spend 5 minutes which will turn into 45 minutes of conversation, would clear up all of the confusion about this car and it's owner.

[Khalil]

You have to meet Miles to have half a fucking clue to understand what's going on here. You'll see those of us that are "standing up" for him are people who know him personally. Once you meet Miles and spend 5 minutes which will turn into 45 minutes of conversation, would clear up all of the confusion about this car and it's owner.

Pretty damn true.
It's always a good ass time with Miles

[NeedingAnAudi]

Dude is straight bonkers. I watched him sprinkle Parmesan onto his shoulder. No I'm not kidding. I have mad respect for him, and am genuinely excited every time I come across him

[OrangeBlue]

I don't get what's the fuzz about this cat. Okay, it low ... but that's pretty much all. There's no crazy fitment, body is banged up, interior looks like shit, zip tied plexiglas windshield (wtf ?!), horrible exhaust and so on. And above all, I keep seeing the phrase "I'm having fun driving this car" flying around. How can you have fun in a car that is basically impractical? Sure, we're all here for the love of lows and fitment but I don't think it's anything fun in having a car that gets stuck on every littlle road imperfection. To me, everything you do looks like a desperate need for attention.

Because Fabel... Don't ask questions.

That's it...

It's the one and only.

[JVC]

Dude is straight bonkers. I watched him sprinkle Parmesan onto his shoulder. No I'm not kidding. I have mad respect for him, and am genuinely excited every time I come across him

I presume that happened at SYL? Parmesan shoulder isn't as good as a Chicken Leg Dog

[Topazkd]

This car IS FUKING NUTS! and fabel is the man.

ps: Its very fun to drive!

[FluidMotorUnion]

horrible exhaust and so on.

Fabel 2016. We're a bit biased though, seeing as how it's currently in the parking lot.

And just like everybody else says, if you haven't yet talked to Miles in person, you're only understanding 10% of this car at the most.

[T3rd Ferguson]

And just like everybody else says, if you haven't yet talked to Miles in person, you're only understanding 10% of this car at the most.

I met you Fabel at h20i, we were taking pics of my E36 M3 at the end of 26th street while you were shooting another miata. in the 5 minutes I talked to you, you were super nice (looking out of my MV lip) and very genuine. I love this fucking car. I used to have a static low B4 passat wagon back in the day that you could not see daylight while looking underneath. Like someone said, if you can drive it that low, it is as practical as it needs to be and just as much fun.

[luvadubdub]

Stance is about how low your car is to the ground not how close your wheels are to your arches

I think somebody needs to actually learn what "stance" means, it's certainly not about how low your car is to the ground. Talk about stance to hot rod guys, it's often about nose down ass up as with cal-look volkswagens. Ask the Stanceworks guys about it, I'm sure they'll define it better than myself!

[NeedingAnAudi]

I presume that happened at SYL? Parmesan shoulder isn't as good as a Chicken Leg Dog

H20 son! Did not know he went until he yelled me out of the passenger seat of topazkd's car

[FABEL]

I think somebody needs to actually learn what "stance" means, it's certainly not about how low your car is to the ground.

maybe you're trying to argue here?, cause I've never said this car is stanced.

FABEL is just bathsalts crazy all on it's own accord, without any specific plan other than to embrace all things that come with laying frame.



instead, my car is slammed; just like the fender says.



but if you wanted to evaluate how 'stanced' my roadster is, I can post some photos of the fitment.





& just so you know . . . 'stance' is different to everybody.

some want to tuck tire & poke wheel, others prefer to hide as much wheel as possible cutting off the overall diameter of the wheel, some only care about how the fender sits atop, while other are passionate about poke; so on & so fourth.

for me, it's just gotta work with the overall feel of the car. thanks for caring.

[FunfGang]

I think somebody needs to actually learn what "stance" means, it's certainly not about how low your car is to the ground. Talk about stance to hot rod guys, it's often about nose down ass up as with cal-look volkswagens. Ask the Stanceworks guys about it, I'm sure they'll define it better than myself!

So if you can't define it, do you think you have any room to talk?

[MrJereMoose]

Stance Defined: A Formula

As written by Nic Foster, StanceWorks:

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the official Stance Formula.
I’d like to think I’m a student of Stance. I capitalize Stance on purpose; for the same reason Catholic’s capitalize God. Some of you may be aware that I’m an engineer. I work with numbers, criteria, mechanical envelopes, and constraints all day long. Most of the things in the engineering world come about from equations, safety factors, or other design criteria that must be adhered to. As a good student of Stance, I look at cars quite a bit on the internet. Clicking on links of links. Getting lost in a sea of still images, each one showing a different definition of what Stance might be, or how someone else perceives it. Part of me has always thought that there must be some sort of equation that provides a basis for proper Stance. Here I make an attempt to define the variables and relationship between those variables that blend together to make a well balanced Stance.

Variables:
Gap — A measure of distance between wheel lip or tire to fender. Although weighted differently than low, the lack of fender gap creates an aggressive look and the feeling of danger due to the potential for damage (see Damage further down). {G1} refers to gap between the front wheel/tire and front fender. {G2} refers to gap between the rear wheel/tire and rear fender. {G1}{G2}

Wheelbase — The distance between the wheels of the automobile in question. {Wb}

Muffler — How much space there is between the ground and muffler can. Busted mufflers that dangle and move need not apply. {M}

Oilpan — Common place where low is measured. Usually at the front of an automobile, this Low measurement marks the begining of the Low Function. {Op}

Rake — The slope (rise over run) of the bottom of the automobile were Low is measured.



Exhaust — Another common place where low is measured. Exhaust usually extends back from Oilpan and is measured in inches. {E}

Low — The measurment of clearance from any portion of the automobile to the surface on which it rolls. Of course Stance is not acheiveable without low. In all forms of Stance, low is a requirement. Low can be expressed as a function of previously defined variables.



Wheel — A rolling appartus that the tire mounts to, providing increased style and personality to the automobile in question. Wheels can create Stance in one of many ways. Customization, rarity, size, uniqueness, marque mismatch. {w}

Poke — The extension of the wheel lip even with, or past the fender line. Poke can be achieved with spacers or, in the case of modular wheels, wider outers. Poke can be excessive, depending on other variable measurments poke can detract from Stance. {P}

Stretch — The use of a tire that is more narrow than the wheel. In order to mount these tires one must “stretch” them beyond their normal design constraints. {Sr}

Damage — The lack of damage is not a penalty when talking about Stance, but damage as a direct result of Stance is seen as a form of Stance in itself. Like the enherinet hangover associated with drinking too much, damage seems to be an acceptable side effect of Stance. Like a hangover, damage hurts at first, but is then worn as a badge of honor. Fender damage from the effects of Gap, or mechanical failure of oilpans as a function of Low, and damage in the vain of Style are all acceptable forms of damage. {D}

Tuck — When Gap becomes a negative number. Used only in reference to wheel lip. {T}



Style — The most subjective of all variables. Style refers to the ability of the automobile owner to create Stance through the use of unique materials, vision, and unique combinations. Style could be best described as the artform of Stance. {Sy}

Constants:
Daylight — The presence of photons (in a wave or particle form) emitted from the sun. {Dl}

Relations:
Working on relating all the variables to eachother is essentially the process of Stance. Some relations have already been defined through the explanation of the variables. Rules per say. Taking all these variables and making an overlying Stance equation is a daunting task. Taking the variables and defining which of them are multipliers, which can or can not be present in the event of the other’s existance, and making sure that weights are adequitely placed on those which make the largest Stance impact all become an excersize. As a student of Stance I have scoured the internet looking for the most prevalent, prolific, and popular examples of Stance. Using these examples the Stance equation / formula was born.