Riddle me this???

[NickBroderick]

Air is cool because you can tuck, be flush or poke at any given time.







I prefer flush and very tight fitting tuck.

[LuckyHenriksen]

I love your B5 ^ I have one as a daily, I keep telling myself not to spend money modding it but it is a struggle.

[Schultz28]

sometimes the wheel hit the fender... so probably my suspension travels less than 10mm for sure...

i definitely know how that feels. i still cringe everytime i hear it especially since im now running a nice 3pc wheel.

[BOOGIEBOY]

You guys need to learn some history.

It's just a progression from the earliest low or "Stanced" cars.

Lowriding originated in the 1930s and blossomed in Southwestern Chicano communities during the post-war prosperity of the '50s. Initially, youths who dressed in the pachuco style would place sandbags in the trunk of their customized cars in order to create a lowered effect. This method was replaced by lowering blocks, cut spring coils, z’ed frames and drop spindles. The aim of the lowriders is to cruise as slowly as possible, "Low and Slow" ("Bajito y Suavecito") being their motto. However, this resulted in a backlash: the 1958 California Vehicle Code 24008, which outlawed any car having any part lower than the bottom of its wheel rims. In 1959, a customizer named Ron Aguirre developed a way of bypassing the law with the use of hydraulic Pesco pumps and valves (scavenged from a surplus B-52 bomber) that allowed him to change ride height at the flick of a switch. 1958 saw the emergence of the Chevy Impala which featured an X-shaped frame that was perfectly suited for lowering and modification with hydraulics. Between 1960 and 1975, customizers adapted and refined GM X-frames, hydraulics, and airbrushing techniques to create the modern lowrider style. The oldest car cruising strip is located on Whittier Boulevard in East Los Angeles. Cruising on this strip became a popular pastime with the lowriding community during the 1940s before spreading to surrounding neighborhoods in the 1950s.

[slotoyo]

i definitely know how that feels. i still cringe everytime i hear it especially since im now running a nice 3pc wheel.

i thought i was the only one. my girlfriend says i make weird faces when i hear the scraping of fender and lip.

but to answer Op's question i really do think its just the preference of the owner of whether they wanna be sunk or poking while slammed. me personally i love when the fender come between the lip and bead, i kinda wish i could push out my wheels a bit more to achieve that on a static level.

[projektzwo]

You guys need to learn some history.

It's just a progression from the earliest low or "Stanced" cars.

Lowriding originated in the 1930s and blossomed in Southwestern Chicano communities during the post-war prosperity of the '50s. Initially, youths who dressed in the pachuco style would place sandbags in the trunk of their customized cars in order to create a lowered effect. This method was replaced by lowering blocks, cut spring coils, z’ed frames and drop spindles. The aim of the lowriders is to cruise as slowly as possible, "Low and Slow" ("Bajito y Suavecito") being their motto. However, this resulted in a backlash: the 1958 California Vehicle Code 24008, which outlawed any car having any part lower than the bottom of its wheel rims. In 1959, a customizer named Ron Aguirre developed a way of bypassing the law with the use of hydraulic Pesco pumps and valves (scavenged from a surplus B-52 bomber) that allowed him to change ride height at the flick of a switch. 1958 saw the emergence of the Chevy Impala which featured an X-shaped frame that was perfectly suited for lowering and modification with hydraulics. Between 1960 and 1975, customizers adapted and refined GM X-frames, hydraulics, and airbrushing techniques to create the modern lowrider style. The oldest car cruising strip is located on Whittier Boulevard in East Los Angeles. Cruising on this strip became a popular pastime with the lowriding community during the 1940s before spreading to surrounding neighborhoods in the 1950s.

bla bla bla... the point of this thread was in other direction, son...

[BOOGIEBOY]

bla bla bla... the point of this thread was in other direction, son...

Wow. Your smart.

He asked where it started, and that's where it started.

Don't be such an ignorant person that you can't recognize that?

Everything that everyone does on this site was already being done before most of us were born. The major difference is the technology available and the large "aftermarket" support for MOST cars on this site.

The reason for the lip and fender thing is no different than the desire to be low and tuck wheels in the 40's and 50's. It's just a style thing.


I realize that this may be too much for you to comprehend, but you should not discredit the shoulders that the majority on this site stands on.....son.

[Ollie]

Whats the point in resting a quarter or fender between the wheel lip and tire? Is there some history behind this?
I ask because in doing this the quest ro 'ride' as low as possible is negated. You have to lift the car enough when driving to allow for required suspension travel.
Why not just tuck with mm's to spare so you can still ride low?
Not trying to start any nonsense. Just looking for an explanation or some background.

I totally understand where you're coming from. It's just done to look awesome as hell when resting and it does work on some cars imo IF the quarters are high enough or radiused to allow enough drop with the wheels used AND if you have a proper air set up that allows you to raise the car just slightly while maintaining a decently high spring rate so you can roll with minimal fender gap. It's easy for this to go way wrong though.

From a vip standpoint, the wheels usually barely clear and tuck on compression even though they often poke or are super flush and look like they'll slam right into the fender. Partly that's due to camber so when it's compressed it tilts in even harder.

I'm with you on this though. If done right, like most real vip cars, you can roll at the height that these cars sit aired out on the wheel lips with just a few mm less poke or a couple degrees less camber(while keeping the same poke though aka less offset combined with more camber). You can roll comfortably static or on air with no rubbing whatsoever and you can fit as many people in the car as you want while still looking awesome. Then on compression, either static or airred completely out, when the wheel tucks up it just barely clears the fender, which is what it's all about imo. 100% personal preference. I like all other styles for sure, and I've rocked tuck/poke/air/flush/camber/younameit, but this is it for me. Both my cars roll like this. Practical stance at it's finest.

[d.tek]

what is the point of any of the shit people do?

[Schnitz]

You guys need to learn some history.

It's just a progression from the earliest low or "Stanced" cars.

Lowriding originated in the 1930s and blossomed in Southwestern Chicano communities during the post-war prosperity of the '50s. Initially, youths who dressed in the pachuco style would place sandbags in the trunk of their customized cars in order to create a lowered effect. This method was replaced by lowering blocks, cut spring coils, z’ed frames and drop spindles. The aim of the lowriders is to cruise as slowly as possible, "Low and Slow" ("Bajito y Suavecito") being their motto. However, this resulted in a backlash: the 1958 California Vehicle Code 24008, which outlawed any car having any part lower than the bottom of its wheel rims. In 1959, a customizer named Ron Aguirre developed a way of bypassing the law with the use of hydraulic Pesco pumps and valves (scavenged from a surplus B-52 bomber) that allowed him to change ride height at the flick of a switch. 1958 saw the emergence of the Chevy Impala which featured an X-shaped frame that was perfectly suited for lowering and modification with hydraulics. Between 1960 and 1975, customizers adapted and refined GM X-frames, hydraulics, and airbrushing techniques to create the modern lowrider style. The oldest car cruising strip is located on Whittier Boulevard in East Los Angeles. Cruising on this strip became a popular pastime with the lowriding community during the 1940s before spreading to surrounding neighborhoods in the 1950s.

I'm completely educated on lowering in general.
Your response tells me you missed the point of my question (quarter resting between bead and wheel lip) as projektzwo said.
I appreciate the effort though. Thanks.

[CHIF8008]

We ride how we like it. It's just as different as stating your favorite color against someone elses.

[Clay]

what is the point of any of the shit people do?

Internet fame

[Dane]

It just looks cool to sum it all up

This.

I don't like tucked wheels. I might not be able to go super low myself, because I still want to be able drive aggressively.

[Pyropiggy2.5]

I think it's a direct result of hard-parking meets.

Usually the VW resting on massively poked tires gets the most leg-humping.

[skrapez]

Whats the point of lowering a car at all?