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  • #76
    from what i have been told, my installer is going to custom fab a strut for me for the rear.
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    • #77
      found more information not sure if it would be helpful for me, but apparently the nissan sylphy g11 has the same chasis as my b16?
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      • #78
        Sylphys are on the Nissan/Renault B-platform; the B16 Sentra is on the C-platform. The C-platform is a stretched B-platform, but I don't know how much crosses over. Knowing Nissan, probably a lot.

        So, I'm going to let your install guy decide what fittings to install on the bags, since they're dependent upon how the lines need to be routed, but here's what I'd do for the remainder of the install:



        Were it me, I'd have the leader lines from the compressors to the tank, as well as the lines between the tank and the floor bulkhead be polished copper or aluminum hardlines, just for looks, but that's optional. You can get away with using the Viair leader hoses instead of the check valve / PTC fitting contraptions above, but my experience has been that Viair's leader hoses leak and their check valves fail pretty quickly.

        So, if that layout looks like what you'd like, order anything on that diagram that you don't have currently in hand. To do that layout above, you'll need somewhere around 100' of 1/4" air line. Everything above is available from BagRiders, which makes things a little easier than trying to piece it all together from a thousand vendors.

        You'll also need:
        • Enough 4-gauge wire (preferably in red) to run from the battery to the trunk. KnuKonceptz wire is like the bestest wire that's ever happened. You'll have to forgive the fact that they have an incredibly stupid brand name.
        • A 4-gauge ring terminal to connect said wire to your battery.
        • Some way of adapting the 4-gauge wire down to a smaller gauge. A distribution block will work fine for this, but there are other ways to make this happen too.
        • 1 BagRiders Line Cutter
        • 1 BagRiders Relay Wiring Kit
        • A self-tapping screw to fit the ring terminal BagRiders gives you with the relay wiring kit
        • A 40A fuse to fit the fuse holder you've already got, and get a spare or two while you're at it
        • Enough small gauge wire to run from your dashboard to the trunk (yellow would be a very good color for this wire)
        • A few butt splice connectors in red and yellow
        • A couple female spade terminals in red
        • A single T-tap, either blue or red should work
        • A bit of heat-shrink tubing that'll cleanly fit over the red and yellow connectors (you may need two sizes here)
        • Some split wire loom, whatever size you can get that's smallest
        • Electrical tape
        • GOOD wire crimpers / strippers (not those shitty ones they have at the auto parts store, go invest in a pair of Kleins or something else that's decent)
        • A heat gun or hair dryer
        • Zip ties! You always need zip ties!
        • Some kind of thread sealant. Teflon tape is fine, lots of people swear by Loctite 545, I've been using Rectorseal T+2, but it's a fucking mess
        • Obviously if you're doing hard lines, you need some copper or aluminum tubing in 1/4" OD. You'll need a tube bender too - the cheap Harbor Freight one is fine


        I would also strongly recommend a multimeter, or at the very least, a test probe.

        I'm sure I'm forgetting something off the list, but that's pretty good to start. Get shopping!
        Last edited by Oh Damn, it's Sam; 04-05-2014, 09:26 PM. Reason: jesus christ, you'd think for someone who writes for a living that I could actually write.



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        • #79
          damn seems expensive. alright see what I can do gotta get a second job or even a third.
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          • #80
            Welcome to air ride. Shit ain't cheap. People just about plotz when they hear what I've got in my setup, and it's not near the fanciest I've ever seen.

            You're looking at maybe $450 for all the stuff I've listed above. That'll get you to where you're ready to install the bags. You can save some money by not doing hard lines, using the stock Viair leader hoses, and so forth, but there's no getting around the expense of some of this stuff.
            Last edited by Oh Damn, it's Sam; 04-06-2014, 03:54 PM.



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            • #81
              that's not bad at all, already have about 1500 for what I do have, my title is true 4x4 for life lol
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              • #82



                not sure what all this is? one looks to be a relay maybe?


                struts for the front


                bags 4 fatties lol
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                • #83
                  The second pic has a relay, a water separator, looks like a pressure switch, and a tee.

                  The pressure switch should have markings on it to indicate what pressure it turns on and off at. For your purposes, you want a turn-off pressure of 200 psi.

                  If that pressure switch will work, that'll save you buying that part, and since you've got a relay, you don't need the relay wiring kit I listed above.



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                  • #84
                    alright will do let me look right now. Got an interview for a better job so that stuff I can get in one paycheck
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                    • #85
                      on:120psi off:150psi
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                      • #86
                        Alright, you can use that pressure switch, but it won't use the full capabilities of your tank or compressors. You'll get 1/3 more range out of your air supply if you switch to a 200 psi switch.



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                        • #87
                          okay will do slowly but surely ill have this done.. maybe not this year but next
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                          • #88

                            my suppliers setup for his own car that he is doing now?
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                            • #89
                              One other thing to contemplate about the pressure switch situation: Your front bags are going to need a fair amount of pressure to raise the car. B16s have a pretty front-heavy weight distribution, and bag-over-strut setups need more pressure than a standard bag of equivalent exterior dimensions to lift the same load as a result of their reduced cap area.

                              Based on an extremely rough calculation with data from my car (which is heavier by 650-700 lbs, but has a similar weight distribution), I'm guessing you're going to need around 140 psi to lift the car to ride height. This means that if your tank has 120 psi sitting in it, it will only have enough pressure to lift the car halfway, the compressors will kick on, and you'll have to wait 2–2.5 minutes for them to finish refilling the tank before you can lift the car the remainder of the way. That sounds pretty annoying to me.



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                              • #90
                                so what do you suggest?
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