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    Yes, that is correct... 240Z. As you may have noticed by the lack of updates on the 280Z build, it has come to a bit of a halt. The building which we leased was sold last fall, in which time the 280 was moved into a corner of a warehouse down the road. The new building situation has been up in the air, and has fallen through a few times over the past months. So, until we have our new building, the 280 is on hold as there just isn't space to properly build the frame. Don't give up just yet, we'll be back on it sooner than later:-)

    With that being said, I wasn't about to sit around and occupy all of my time building other people's car's/parts (althgouh I still do plenty of that)... I needed something else I could work on. So I started looking for a 240Z.
    I found one which looked decent down in Illinois. It was bright yellow, an according to the owner ran like a top when it was parked a couple years ago. So, clean out the old gas, clean the carbs and shake off the dust.... no problem. It was about 4 hours south of me, but after several phone calls with the owner, I was convinced that it was something I was going to get. I told the owner I'd arrange to come down, bring a car dolly and hand him a stack of hundreds. He said he'd air up the tires, and get it ready to go.

    Fast forward to that night... we pull up the house (by this time its 9 pm, pitch black out, and maybe all of 35 degrees) and see the Z tucked in the back of the shed. Hmm...
    I asked the owner to pull the car out of the shed so we could load it up. He says "I'm only going to move it if you're going to buy it". My friend Ross and I look at each other confused. I pointed to the car dolly on the back of the truck, and showed him the stack of cash. "I told you I was coming to buy this last weekend, and again each time we talked over the last 4 days... yea, I'm here to take it".
    So, the car was burried under I couldnt tell you how many cans, old tools, all the shit weird ass people shove into a barn/shed...you name it. All four tires were flat. The rear diff had a jack under it. It looked like it hadn't moved in honestly 20 years (come to find out later he was the original owner, and hadn't driven it since the 80's).
    We cleared the shit off of it, aired up the tires, and tried rolling it out of the shed.... I didn't even bother trying to start it. I just wanted it on the dolly so we could get the hell out of there... but no luck. The rear drums were seized. Back up on the jack it went, off came the rear wheels, and out came the torches and mallets. We beat and pried on the drums for an hour. We finally said f*ck it, and left with an empty dolly. I don't think we said more than two words on the four hour drive home. Even the fries as McDonnalds were a week old, I dumped my whole box out the window. It just wasn't or day....

    Fast forward to three weeks later and I'm in Minnesota picking up this guy. A "little rough around the edges" as the Craigslist ad said, but solid. He guy even tossed in another set of doors, hood, hatch, rear tailights, dash, and a 5-speed tranny. Car on the trailer and parts in the back of the truck and we're on our way home!


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    Back home safe in my driveway.


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    more to come on this in a few hours...
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  • #2
    This is going to be EPIC! Cant wait!
    When in doubt, cut it out...
    http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=39445 <<<<<<< Check out my BUILD!!!!

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    • #3
      in for this

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      • #4
        Back to the story....

        Introducing the new Z. A '70 240 with 65,000 miles on the odometer, though given the shape of it I doubt there's much truth to that. After getting home and going through it, it was clear that it will need a bit more work than originally hoped for. Both floor pans have been replaced, and the frame rails under the engine have been patched. There are various holes here and there... the typical stuff. Nothing that can't be fixed of course, but nothing that anyone wants to do. Oh well... at least I'll know the body will be more secure than it was off the show room floor.

        The car appears to be green orignally, then painted white at some point, and finally the sad shade you see it today. I call it battleship grey, and that may stick with the car. For now at least (the plan was to paint it lamborghini orange, but I don't now if this is the right car for that).

        Onto the fun stuff. I had envisioned keeping this car fairly simple. Retain the 2.4 inline 6, although I'll be throwing the exhaust manifold across the street in favor of something wild, of course, small wheels, modest flares, a driver that would not turn into a full blown project.
        Then I went down into the basement and looked at the wheels I had sitting around. It seems a shame that the Work Meisters aren't currently being used on anything, so I brought up the 18x13's (the front for the 280) and bolted it up (with a 2" adapter of course)
        and amazingly enough it actually fit... and well I must say. Now, ignore the current ride height, haha... The fenders will be cut up about 4" above the current opening so the car can be lowered to where it needs to be. The tires that are on the stock wheels are 195/50/14 with an overall height of 23". The Work wheels have a 335/30/18 with an overal height of 25.7", so I'll be going down about 3.65" from the stock height, or 5" from where you see it with the Work mounted.
        The fronts will be an 18x11 with a -3 offset and 2" spacer. The tire will be a 285/30/18, so it wont have the stretched look that most cars on this site do, but it is the smallest overall height of all 18" tires, and will allow the car to sit as low as possible.

        I'll be using coilovers from another model, most likely a 240sx, modified to work with the Z's sectioned strut tubes. If the coilovers themselves do not give me the drop I need, I'll fabricate new top hats for the struts (shown in the 280 thread) and I'll be set.

        At that point I'll have no problem running the car as is, without any sort of flare for the time being. Eventually i'll fabricate something, but it won't keep me from enjoying the car.

        Onto the photos...



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        • #5

          "They fit" hahaha

          Glad you've still got Z love. I'm sure it'll be nice to do some work on a fun little side project and perhaps even improve on the 280 design you had envisioned.
          No warehouse, does that mean that you don't have an actual day job warehouse to go to, or the warehouse was just for side projects? (just curious, although it's very personal)


          "Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TeckniX View Post
            Glad you've still got Z love. I'm sure it'll be nice to do some work on a fun little side project and perhaps even improve on the 280 design you had envisioned.
            No warehouse, does that mean that you don't have an actual day job warehouse to go to, or the warehouse was just for side projects? (just curious, although it's very personal)
            No, not a problem. The building we used to lease was owned by the ownder of the company I work for ( I manage the engineering department of a company the designs and build stainless plumbing - fire trucks, waste-water treament / RO systems as a "day job", and do the automotive design and fabrication on the side... for now). The owner sold the building to someone outside the company, and my 280, amongst other cars/projects, is in the corner of one of the other buildings the company owns. We are currently in the process of locating our own building from which to launch our LLC.
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            • #7
              haha I'm glad I didn't drive down to look at that yellow Z! Also, saw the one you bought on CL, though I've just been eyeing Z's up, not looking to buy yet.

              It will be fun to watch this build from the beginning. If you start your own shop (which it sounds like you want to) I will definitely be stopping by for a tour and maybe even some work.

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              • #8
                Ahh very cool - Glad you're making your past-time somewhat of a true engineering house.
                I think your first product should be making an exo out of a 240 (1990+) like these bastards (http://exomotive.com/mevster/)

                I'll invest in it, by providing a 240 for you to tinker. haha

                Plus it'll be good practice for your actual 280z frame build. WIN-WIN!
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                "Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

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                • #9
                  looking forward to this man! just time until the 280 is done, but for now this shall keep me content

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                  • #10
                    Coilovers are on the way...along with a number of other maintenance items... distributor cap and rotor, plugs, plug wires... all the boring stuff:-) I took the intake manifold and carburetors off to clean up and go through, however now that they're off i'll take the time to redo the crossover tube, get rid of the coolant line which runs through the bottom of both intakes, clean and polish (or just black everything out) and tidy it up quite a bit... all the fun stuff:-) I also dropped the gas tank, cleaned out the old fuel, but ill probably ditch that all together and weld up a fuel cell instead.
                    Photos to come soon...
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SENZA PARI View Post
                      No, not a problem. The building we used to lease was owned by the ownder of the company I work for ( I manage the engineering department of a company the designs and build stainless plumbing - fire trucks, waste-water treament / RO systems as a "day job", and do the automotive design and fabrication on the side... for now). The owner sold the building to someone outside the company, and my 280, amongst other cars/projects, is in the corner of one of the other buildings the company owns. We are currently in the process of locating our own building from which to launch our LLC.
                      Looking forward to the Senza Pari version of a mild build, my Z is still languishing in the garage, so I tend to live vicariously through your progress. On an unrelated side note: how do you feel about using Silicon Bronze filler rods in non-structural stainless fabrication?

                      -Murph
                      "Sideways scratches on your tungsten will cause dogs and cats to sleep together."

                      "Sideways scratches on your tungsten will also cause pandemonium and the end of the world as we know it."

                      -Unknown

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                      • #12
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                        • #13
                          The epicness!
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                          • #14
                            Your work is amazing, so I can't imagine this thread being anything less then a complete success.

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                            • #15
                              I wish shipping was cheaper, my 260z shell would have been great for your project. Rust free.

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