Senza pari 280z build

[TeckniX]

Always enjoying the pics of random welds, even if it has nothing (little) to do with the car

Are all of those made with your walking the cup technique? I need to find a good tutorial on that...

[SENZA PARI]

Hey man... professional industrial designer / CAD monkey here. If you need any help with surfacing, let me know. I've done some pretty complex stuff, but almost all of it is going into production so I can't show you examples. Your solid modeling skills are... "solid" though, just offering help if you need it! I have 2009-2012, btw.

Edit: TIGHT! I didn't realize you were in wisco. Would definitely like to meet up, I haz mad skills in complex surfacing, and really expensive rendering equipment. I can make your vision look real before you finish it!

I'd definitely be up for it! Although it may be a bit further down the road before the models are worthy of some mad render/surfacing! Where abouts in Mke are you?? I'm down that way all the time... I actually bought the Z down in West Allis last summer!

Man, you should have started out with a pre 1975 S30. You could go ALLOT further in your dream and have it still be street legal... Before you do ANY MORE work to the chassis, you should seriously consider this... Seriously. Not that I am anywhere near on par with your skills but this is where most builders fail. They start with the wrong platform...
Finding a 240z or even a 260z shell should not be that hard...
Other than that.... OMFG!!!!

Haha, thanks! Believe me, I did consider it... however given how little of the actual car/frame/everything would actually remain It really wouldn't have mattered all too much.

He's not in Cali, so he'll be okay with his chassis.

As for the OP, great work! It's really nice to see a Z getting this kind of attention. And yes, definitely make a thread on HybridZ! I did see your thread on L28 headers, though, but no build thread.
I agree with softg though. I'd like to see a little bit of the Z's shape in the final product. I understand you are vastly reworking the car, but at the very least, I'd like to see the sugar scoops make it to the final product, just so that we all know it's still a Z. I will admit though, that rendering looks pretty fucking nice.

Thank you! I do have a build thread over on Hybrid, however I haven't updated or even been on there in some time now. I might just have to stop in there tonight...
The final car will be out there, but it will remain a Z:-)

this is going to be like a JGTC car on steroids but based on an old body, and i love it! the quality all over is ridiculous and that video of the welding blew my mind.

some questions for you please:

are you going to make all new composite (carbon presumably) panels, or fab them up in steel?
with your headers you do, i notice they support insane turbos but appear to not brace them other than the strength of the manifold. ive got a GT42 and even with the tial housing it still weighs a tonne, so do you use thicker wall tube or something to make them strong enough?
thanks, keep up the great posting, its great to see fabrication done to this level, and gives the rest of us something to aspire to.

As of right now the body panels will be fiberglass, as I do have quite a bit of experience creating panels/fenders from it. The 7 we're doing has been the basis for a lot of trial and error that has made/ and will continue to make this build much smoother. I'm very thankful for it. When the Z is done, it will make the next project car that much easier/wilder;-)

As for the turbo manifolds supporting rather large turbos... we do use sch10 pipe typically, which is thicker than most manifolds you see, though not uncommon. I would say that the weld processes we use allows us to get away without using them in some cases. A number of the 2-rotor manifolds (3 rotor's not so much) are braced to the motor or frame in the same fashion as an engine torque-brace.

Thanks again to everyone for all of the kind words... we really do appreciate it. You have no idea!
I'll keep the progress pics coming, whether it be on the Z or not. The past few weeks have been filled with client cars and basketball games (high school state tournament) so the work done on the car has been minimal. I have however been able to double check all of the measurements for critical frame points, and will be ordering up tubing this week, and having the door perimeter/hoop bars CNC bent up. Two-three weeks for those (although the actual run-time for bending is around 45 seconsd I'm told). Good things are around the corner.

And just for fun, a few shots of a 4" downpipe, .035" wall 321 stainless from earlier tonight..


IMAG0719 by SENZA PARI #1, on Flickr


IMAG0722 by SENZA PARI #1, on Flickr


IMAG0725 by SENZA PARI #1, on Flickr

[340i]

this is going to be like a JGTC car on steroids but based on an old body, and i love it! the quality all over is ridiculous and that video of the welding blew my mind.

some questions for you please:

are you going to make all new composite (carbon presumably) panels, or fab them up in steel?

with your headers you do, i notice they support insane turbos but appear to not brace them other than the strength of the manifold. ive got a GT42 and even with the tial housing it still weighs a tonne, so do you use thicker wall tube or something to make them strong enough?


thanks, keep up the great posting, its great to see fabrication done to this level, and gives the rest of us something to aspire to.

[MadMax]

I love all of your welding work

[rturbo 930]

Man, you should have started out with a pre 1975 S30. You could go ALLOT further in your dream and have it still be street legal... Before you do ANY MORE work to the chassis, you should seriously consider this... Seriously. Not that I am anywhere near on par with your skills but this is where most builders fail. They start with the wrong platform...
Finding a 240z or even a 260z shell should not be that hard...
Other than that.... OMFG!!!!

He's not in Cali, so he'll be okay with his chassis.

As for the OP, great work! It's really nice to see a Z getting this kind of attention. And yes, definitely make a thread on HybridZ! I did see your thread on L28 headers, though, but no build thread.

I agree with softg though. I'd like to see a little bit of the Z's shape in the final product. I understand you are vastly reworking the car, but at the very least, I'd like to see the sugar scoops make it to the final product, just so that we all know it's still a Z. I will admit though, that rendering looks pretty fucking nice.

[estwokayy..]

dayumm!

[ufoz]

Definitely one of the more ambitious builds I've ever seen of an S30... Even though it isn't going to look much like one anymore when it's done I am very interested to see what direction this ends up taking. I'm a fan of the organic building process that's happening here.

[SR20*LOW]

Man, you should have started out with a pre 1975 S30. You could go ALLOT further in your dream and have it still be street legal... Before you do ANY MORE work to the chassis, you should seriously consider this... Seriously. Not that I am anywhere near on par with your skills but this is where most builders fail. They start with the wrong platform...
Finding a 240z or even a 260z shell should not be that hard...
Other than that.... OMFG!!!!

Cash68, you would appear to be a deity...

[Earl]

Wow=O

[cash68]

Hey man... professional industrial designer / CAD monkey here. If you need any help with surfacing, let me know. I've done some pretty complex stuff, but almost all of it is going into production so I can't show you examples. Your solid modeling skills are... "solid" though, just offering help if you need it! I have 2009-2012, btw.

Edit: TIGHT! I didn't realize you were in wisco. Would definitely like to meet up, I haz mad skills in complex surfacing, and really expensive rendering equipment. I can make your vision look real before you finish it!

[ghost_machine]

Do you have a thread on Hybrid Z? There are some awesome guys on there that I know would LOVE what you're doing.

[StatusError]

Looks like its going to be a batmobile haha. Awesome!

[SENZA PARI]

I dig that you're building your own car here but I for one was really hoping that the body of the z would stay and that accommodation for those glorious wheels would come in the form of some serious fenders. can't really make comments on the body as it's not really been shown, but what has, not a fan. probably jumping the gun but... not trying to be negative, just wanted to see a modified z as opposed to the organic sculpting I am seeing.

all in all, this is an amazing project with amazing potential and amazing skills and tooling. keep up the work, and show some more solid modeling. also, the solid model does no justice to the insane size of those wheels in real life, or picture life as it were

Criticism accepted... however the front end, meaning headlights/bumper (if you can still call it that when its complete)/and fenders will be altered, as they just wont work with the wheels as is. They will however keep the Z styling.
The rear fenders will also be widened about 9.5" per side to deal with the wheels... otherwise the majority of the body will remain the Z.

[softg]

I dig that you're building your own car here but I for one was really hoping that the body of the z would stay and that accommodation for those glorious wheels would come in the form of some serious fenders. can't really make comments on the body as it's not really been shown, but what has, not a fan. probably jumping the gun but... not trying to be negative, just wanted to see a modified z as opposed to the organic sculpting I am seeing.

all in all, this is an amazing project with amazing potential and amazing skills and tooling. keep up the work, and show some more solid modeling. also, the solid model does no justice to the insane size of those wheels in real life, or picture life as it were