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  • OrangeBlue
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    Ollie just owned the s**t out of this...

    If a rim is testet via TÜV/JWL/DOT or VIA it is save to run (even if it's a replica/fake)..,
    and these test may save your ass in an accident...

    Not saying it's good to "steal" a "style/design", but you can take inspiration from them...

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  • Ollie
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    Originally posted by HKSpeed View Post
    How do we verify these budget wheels are really VIA, JWL, Or TUV certified? What's stopping a manufacturer from just stamping those letters on? If I weren't planning to distribute wheels in Germany I would stamp TUV on my fake wheels. What's the German government going to do to me if I'm China or other? I can say they're my initials LOL.
    Originally posted by JLowery28 View Post
    I was just thinking the same thing. The wheels may very well be tested, but what of they haven't? The only thing I can compare it to is the DOT sticker on motorcycle helmets. The DOT actually has no form of testing helmets in anyway. They have criteria that the helmet is supposed to meet, but it's genuinely up to the manufacturer. They get to choose if they think the helmet will meet DOT standards and if they think so then they can throw the DOT stamp on there. Which is where SNELL certification comes into play, but that's an entirely different conversation.
    Yeah, JWL is exactly like DOT. It's a testing standard. It means nothing whatsoever. It's really common for companies to stamp JWL because you can't be wrong. VIA is a testing organization in Japan that independently tests wheels to the real JWL standard. They have to physically have the wheels to perform tests. The same goes for TUV. Stamping those on without actually certification is definitely fraud and those wheels are coming from sketch places. ROTA is a HUGE company, no way they are doing that plus you can just look it up.

    Originally posted by SuperMegaDeathRay View Post
    imo that whole tuv issue is all about the money since the tuv organisation went from an official authority to a private company...
    IMO It's actually better for it to be a private, not for profit organization with some oversight from the government. It keeps them more independent and isolated from political pressures.

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  • Anonymoose
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    I just saw 'Brota' wheels come up in NZ Check them out on FB. Not sure if it's a joke but all their commentary is quite blatant about being copies, quite funny.

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  • SuperMegaDeathRay
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    Originally posted by HKSpeed View Post
    How do we verify these budget wheels are really VIA, JWL, Or TUV certified? What's stopping a manufacturer from just stamping those letters on? If I weren't planning to distribute wheels in Germany I would stamp TUV on my fake wheels. What's the German government going to do to me if I'm China or other? I can say they're my initials LOL.
    if you get your wheels tested at the tuv laboratory you receive a report for it...but as the contractee (the manufacturer or the distributer) you need to be certified...that means some tuv consultant will come and put your business under the microscope...after that they will appear over a specific time period and check if you still comply with the standards...without the certification you won't get the report finished...if you buy a set of wheels your supplier hands you out a copy of the report with which you have to go to a tuv inspecting authority...they check if everything fits right, if there is enough tire clearance, etc bla bla....then you get a notification written by the inspector and you either keep it in your glove box or you need to get an entry in your registration at your local road and traffic department...

    the official rota distributer is located near by my hometown (around 25 miles)...he went thorugh all the procedures and invested an amount of money for that stuff...

    imo that whole tuv issue is all about the money since the tuv organisation went from an official authority to a private company...and sometimes i think the brand "tuv" isn't worth a dime...for example the internet explorer is tuv certified...what the fuck is wrong with these guys... says that internet explorer is as safe as rotas....

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  • JLowery28
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    I was just thinking the same thing. The wheels may very well be tested, but what of they haven't? The only thing I can compare it to is the DOT sticker on motorcycle helmets. The DOT actually has no form of testing helmets in anyway. They have criteria that the helmet is supposed to meet, but it's genuinely up to the manufacturer. They get to choose if they think the helmet will meet DOT standards and if they think so then they can throw the DOT stamp on there. Which is where SNELL certification comes into play, but that's an entirely different conversation.

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  • HKSpeed
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    How do we verify these budget wheels are really VIA, JWL, Or TUV certified? What's stopping a manufacturer from just stamping those letters on? If I weren't planning to distribute wheels in Germany I would stamp TUV on my fake wheels. What's the German government going to do to me if I'm China or other? I can say they're my initials LOL.

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  • SuperMegaDeathRay
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    i kinda agree to ollies point...

    how could rotas be that bad if they accomplish tuv standards and pass the tests...with that i'd have a better feeling of security driving them on a car (i'd never buy them because i don't want to support those copycat companies which are falsely taking credit stealing cool ideas and offer them for cheap)...safety is always first...don't get me wrong but how are companies (for example mht wheels) able to guarantee the strength of their products when they turn a simple drawing, according to a customers request, into a cad file and make a customized one off wheel without any progression time, etc...sounds like sugar bakery to me...needs to look good but not giving a fuck about ingredients and how it tastes......like fixing a large dent with tons of bondo which falls off after passing the next speedbump (eastern europeans seem to work like this as far as i can judge )...with that said fake is fake and not even chuck norris could make it real,,,

    just my two cents...

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  • Rob&co
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    Originally posted by Jlyons617 View Post
    It's Canvas coated with plastic Rob. You'll be wasting the green bro.
    don't worry I am a veteran! I got this!

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  • Jlyons617
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    Originally posted by Rob&co View Post
    ill fucking rip your house and roll a big joint using it!
    It's Canvas coated with plastic Rob. You'll be wasting the green bro.

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  • Rob&co
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    Originally posted by jlyons617 View Post
    there's probably a reason. Kinda like how there aren't any replicas of yugos.
    ill fucking rip your house and roll a big joint using it!

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  • Jlyons617
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    Originally posted by Rob&co View Post
    splits are tits and have not been replicated! RM <3
    There's probably a reason. Kinda like how there aren't any replicas of Yugos.

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  • Rob&co
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    Originally posted by Jlyons617 View Post
    Says the guy on REPLICA dirt track wheels.
    splits are tits and have not been replicated! RM <3

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  • Jlyons617
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    Says the guy on REPLICA dirt track wheels.

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  • Dudermagee
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    lolwtf

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  • Rob&co
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    Ollie....


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