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    This may seem childish, but it's honest. I don't know what I want to do when I grow up.

    See the cliff notes at the bottom if you don't want to read it all.

    This thread is basically the result of me working unfulfilling jobs, unsatisfied with the work, the income, etc. When I should probably just be glad I have a job at all. Maybe it's me being selfish, or granting myself an unwarranted sense of entitlement... like most other bastard white kids from the suburbs in this area.

    Most recently, I have handed in my two-week notice at my current job, for which I don't have a title, nor a job description. I work for a BMW/MINI/Audi dealership collision center, with 11 technicians. Every estimate, whether it be our own or one from an insurance company, goes through me. I enter them as necessary, but I review every single one to identify parts that are being replaced. Then, I create a purchase order for our parts department with all of the parts to be replaced on the vehicle. Then I see to it that the technicians get the parts when the come in. At this point, I receive and invoice the parts in our estimating software (received or not, cost, list price, quantity, etc). I do all of the quality control for every car in the shop. During bodywork and paint, as well as at the end after it is totally assembled and detailed (Checking bodywork for waves, lows, highs, checking paintwork for too much peel, not enough peel, dirt nibs, fisheyes, checking panel gap alignment, cleanliness of the car, etc.) On top of that, I assist with the payroll, production schedule, accounting for parts prices, and whatever else the day may hold. Needless to say, I don't stop moving and shaking all day except for lunch. All for a very meager paycheck, something along the lines that a Sheetz shift manager would make, but with less stress. I save the shop roughly $50k a year in parts price differences between our estimating software, my parts department, and insurance companies' estimating software, and supplement accordingly.

    I will be moving backward occupationally, but forward financially this week by going to a Mercedes-Benz dealership to detail, which I have been doing for years before I tried out the job I have now.

    I know two things. I don't want to make $12/hr with no overtime for the rest of my life like I'm doing at my current job. I don't want to detail forever, either.

    I'm ready for a real career. With benefits, a retirement, and a halfway decent income (I know I will probably never make $100k/year, hell even $70k a year... and I'm fine with that). I just want a solid career, so that I can live comfortably.

    I need some input. I have a Bachelor's Degree in Science and Technology (yeah, that means I know a little about a lot, not a lot about a little like a specialized degree). Think Liberal Arts degree, but having to do with all things science and technology related. Pretty much useless. I don't know what to do with it. While I was in college pursuing a Technology Education degree, the state of PA changed the requirements for those pursuing an education (teaching) degree, and in short basically added on another year to my college career, at which point I was nearing the end of. So, I transferred (like an idiot) to the only degree at the school that took ALL of my completed credits to graduate when I was anticipating to.

    I have a few options at this point.
    A. Go back to college and specialize in something. (Nursing, teaching, accounting, engineering, something like that.)
    B. Get my PA physical damage appraiser's license and work as an estimator for a body shop or an adjustor for an insurance company... since that's the only line of work I'm really familiar with.
    C. Go to trade school, and learn something like HVAC, Electrician, plumbing, truck driving, etc.

    Moral of the story is that I'm not technically "qualified" to do a whole hell of a lot. What should be the next step?

    CLIFF NOTES: I have a useless bachelor's degree, but I want to start a career instead of piss-on jobs full of menial tasks, making no money as I currently do. Need some job ideas. I'm not looking to be a millionaire, but I don't want to have to struggle to keep my head above water, either.
    Last edited by Zack01GC; 08-11-2013, 03:23 PM.

  • #2
    With a Bachelor's degree you can go into the military as an officer. If you avoid the Marines and Army, you can avoid ground pounding. The military provides place all your basic needs. The money you make, if you invest in solid stocks for a 4 year run should have you at least part of the way set.

    (I am a nurse, do not go into that unless you are able to put up with a lot of stress. I went into the Navy, If I could do that part over I would have went Air Force it is much closer to civilian life)

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    • #3
      Thanks for the input. Just looking to hear about some different professions and potential routes I could go from here. I'm 25, so while there is time, I don't want to waste any more of it.

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      • #4
        Identify what you love to do and then figure out how to make money doing it...

        Like I love computers and complex systems and taking shit apart; hence a CIS degree and a career in programing. I've been writing code for fun since I was a little kid so I might as well make money doing it.

        Seems like getting a useless degree might have been were you got into this situation? I don't understand all of the sports science or social work or comm majors who go to school. Whats the point if you're never going to be able to pay off your loans or even find a job in your field?
        My buddy has a masters in English and he makes 12 bucks an hour waiting tables. Shit makes no sense to me
        Last edited by Stupid Kid; 08-12-2013, 09:23 PM.

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        • #5
          Probably. It wasn't useless originally. I was going to be a teacher. However, change in regulation by the state basically added on two more semesters of school, of which I could not afford. So, I took the BS in BS and ran. Now it's biting me in the ass.

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          • #6
            Lets just say I am in the same boat as you are...


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            • #7
              I work in Human Resources. I do salary determinations all day, I know a bit about getting a job and getting paid well. You're right about your degree, you need something more specialized if you want to realize your goals of pay and benefits. Go back to school if you want to really get paid and focus your skillset in a marketable field. That's your best bet unless you have a family depending on your getting paid, like right now.

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              • #8
                I did what Stupid Kid suggested, and it almost bit me in the ass. I've always loved working on engines, mopeds and what not when growing up. And I've had huge love for cars, so the logical thing for me was going to be a car mechanic.
                Well i got offered a place at BMW when i was 16 or 17, luckily i decided to get a small education first. Two years in welding, machining, cad drawing, pneumatic and stuff like that. After that i started working for BMW, and had shit bosses and started to **** working on cars. Then one day, Ford calls and offers me a job there. Started working there, much nicer people but it got so boring working on cars, it totally killed my passion for them.
                I ended up getting fired when Ford started going downhill, and merged with Volvo. I decided to get a better degree and studied Maritime Engineer, I would not have been able to take that degree, if I had not taken the two year education before going to BMW. Now i work in Norway, the oil business as an Engineer and I'm 24 now. I love every minute of it. I'm home 4 weeks and gone 4 weeks at the time, and I'm getting paid when I'm home as well. Not the best pay at the moment, until i get my first certificate. It requires me being at least half a year on the sea.
                To make a long story short, I personally would not recommend mixing passion and everyday work together. It gets so boring over time. I would have clunks and not working functions on my car, and i would not even be bothered to fix them, when i worked at BMW and Ford.
                Also i would work at an garage that serviced all kind of cars, in the summer breaks when studying. and only working for 3 months there each summer break, would drain me of any love for cars.
                If you can afford going back to school, so you can become a teacher, or something more specialized. I would go that route. Since it almost always pays more, and has more benefits to it. So go for option A.
                Last edited by Zic; 08-12-2013, 08:46 PM.
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                • #9
                  Thats definitely good insight. I should probably clarify, as I don't necessarily think you should get a job that's a hobby even.

                  You should try to find a specialized well paying field in something you can get into based on what what type of things you might be into and your hobbies are a good way to find out. What you enjoy doing in your spare time is a pretty good reflection of what type of person you are so it'll be helpful in determining what you should do for a living.

                  You probably enjoy being an engineer for much the same reasons why you like working on cars, just like i enjoy being a programmer for the same reason I like working on cars, they're similar pursuits. Complex systems, putting things together, critical thinking and all that stuff. I couldn't make a career around working on cars either, I could see myself getting tired of it so fast

                  The stuff I do for hobbies on computers, which is mostly tinkering and modifying with things is a bit different that the career type things which is mostly building shit and thinking about really complex problems. I would never do hobby type stuff at work or work type stuff at home but the knowledge I gain from either is useful in either. The differences keep both sides interesting and rewarding.

                  Hopefully that weird block of text is somewhat discernible.
                  Last edited by Stupid Kid; 08-12-2013, 09:31 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Zack01GC View Post
                    Probably. It wasn't useless originally. I was going to be a teacher. However, change in regulation by the state basically added on two more semesters of school, of which I could not afford. So, I took the BS in BS and ran. Now it's biting me in the ass.
                    And yeah that makes sense. Go teach people things!

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                    • #11
                      I don't know the laws in PA, but in GA I think if you have a degree and can pass the certification process in the subject you want to teach (say science since you have a science and tech degree) you can teach. I would look into that first since you sound like teaching is what you want to do. I would contact your local Board of Education and see if it is possible with your degree.

                      I also agree with Stupid Kid, that is the reason I became an electrical engineer. I love taking things apart and seeing how they work (the complexities of it all). But there is absolutely no way that I could work on cars for a living, it would drain my love for them and I wouldn't ever want to work on my own car.
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                      • #12
                        Teaching does not in my experience pay very well. I have a few friends that teach for LA unified. The big upshot is having the summers off. If you're looking at the medical field I'd highly recommend it however. If you're a nurse for example you can easily get a job anywhere getting paid very well.

                        My mother is an NPRN, was an RN for years. Worked for Stanford Children's Hospital for years, worked various other hospitals and specialized in Neonatal Intensive Care. After not too long she was making six figures, became a Nurse Educator then a Visiting Professor. Now she's a Nursing Professor for a very well known university.

                        I've hired Dr.s, PA's, NP's, RN's, Pharmacists. You name it and my eyes always bulge when I do the salary determinations. I've hired traveling nurses, TDY's and many of them are paid so well they work half the year and take the other half off. If you have a degree relating to Hospital Administration you can really make some money and be in demand. Case Management is particularly in demand and it looks like that particular field is going to see more growth in the years coming. The medical field is a safe bet, in fact its one of the few fields that's a near lock on a long lasting and lucrative career.

                        Just my two cents.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Zic View Post
                          I did what Stupid Kid suggested, and it almost bit me in the ass. I've always loved working on engines, mopeds and what not when growing up. And I've had huge love for cars, so the logical thing for me was going to be a car mechanic.
                          Well i got offered a place at BMW when i was 16 or 17, luckily i decided to get a small education first. Two years in welding, machining, cad drawing, pneumatic and stuff like that. After that i started working for BMW, and had shit bosses and started to **** working on cars. Then one day, Ford calls and offers me a job there. Started working there, much nicer people but it got so boring working on cars, it totally killed my passion for them.
                          I ended up getting fired when Ford started going downhill, and merged with Volvo. I decided to get a better degree and studied Maritime Engineer, I would not have been able to take that degree, if I had not taken the two year education before going to BMW. Now i work in Norway, the oil business as an Engineer and I'm 24 now. I love every minute of it. I'm home 4 weeks and gone 4 weeks at the time, and I'm getting paid when I'm home as well. Not the best pay at the moment, until i get my first certificate. It requires me being at least half a year on the sea.
                          To make a long story short, I personally would not recommend mixing passion and everyday work together. It gets so boring over time. I would have clunks and not working functions on my car, and i would not even be bothered to fix them, when i worked at BMW and Ford.
                          Also i would work at an garage that serviced all kind of cars, in the summer breaks when studying. and only working for 3 months there each summer break, would drain me of any love for cars.
                          If you can afford going back to school, so you can become a teacher, or something more specialized. I would go that route. Since it almost always pays more, and has more benefits to it. So go for option A.
                          I don't really have anything usefull to add to this thread, just wanted to say that this story was awesome. Your job sounds really interesting.
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                          • #14
                            Go back to school for one more year anywhere at all that will satisfy CPA exam requirements (accounting, auditing, business law, finance and tax) with a TOTAL of 150 hours of credit. Study your ass off, get your CPA license, and BOOM job security.

                            Just 2 cents from my career field. You don't have to be an accountant forever, but it's a damn good place to start.

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                            • #15
                              At the end of the day you have to do what makes you happy. Its so cliche, but its so true. I thought I wanted to work on cars and have my own shop, yada yada, but I quickly realized working on some assholes junk ass 96 Malibu was not what I had envisioned. It's not something that you figure out overnight, either. I tried so many different job fields, thinking about job security and all that BS, and it really got me nowhere. You really have to think about what would make you happy, despite all the variables about how its not going to work out. I did that, started flying helicopters and haven't had to "work" a day since. Best decision I've ever made. Figure out whats going to make you happy when its all over and just fuckin' do it, you won't regret it.

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