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[Kielan]

more LTL?

That's what I was thinking, but I'm not sure what the bahhhhh was for. lol

[Jesus Christ]

it means you got a weak rack brah

lock to lock is the amount of turn from all the way left to all the way right on the steering wheel. z3's and 02 and up e46's had like a 2.8 turns LTL while my car and your e46 was like 3.5 LTL

bahhhh is a noise i make in disappointment hahaha

[Kielan]

Oh I see.

I mean I figured bahhh was bad, but sometimes I say bahahah, which has that same baahh sound.

[Dudermagee]

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[Kielan]

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Fuck you Dudeman.

[Dudermagee]

Fuck you Dudeman.

bahahahahha baaaahh

[Jesus Christ]

bahahahahha baaaahh

[Kielan]

You're such an ass.

[FluidMotorUnion]

hey fluid why dont you guys machine me a ps rack????

[Dudermagee]

You're such an ass.

Ahh come on you know I'm a nice guy

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lol

[Kielan]

Niqa cazh rulz erthng rund m3 prrod

[Jesus Christ]

fuck money man its overrated

just make the god damn rack

[Rírá]

[Zic]

afaik byron has a m rack.

some info.
Okay, I did not read the entire thread, but in fact I barely read any of it, but all I'm going to say is what wh33lhop's cliffs are correct. Here are some measurements that my friend who races an M coupe took from some race car drivers that took the measurements themeselves:

Z3 non-M racks are all the same.
- LINEAR ratio (same rack travel per input turn across the entire rack length)
- 53.5 mm of linear rack travel per 1 360 degree rotation input.
- 144.5 mm of total rack travel (translates to 2.7 turns L2L)
- installed 13.9:1 ratio

Z3 M racks and '96+ E36 M3 racks are the same.
- PROGRESSIVE ratio (rack is slower on-center, quicker towards L&R rack locks)
- 45.5 mm of linear rack travel on-center per 1 360 degree rotation input.
- 145.6 mm of total rack travel(translates to 3.2 turns L2L)
- installed 15.6:1 mean ratio
- Same p/n rack as E36 non-M, but locks were modified to shorten gear travel from 154.7 to 145.6mm

'95 M3 racks are the slowest and shortest of all US-spec E36 racks, until 200 deg of rotation from on-center.
- PROGRESSIVE ratio
- 39.0 mm of linear rack travel on-center per 1 360 degree rotation input.
- 117mm of total rack travel (translates to 3.0 turns L2L)
- installed 17.6:1 mean ratio

And btw, regular z3 rack > z3M rack = regular e36 rack

So the regular z3 rack would be the best. Sucks for me cuz I JUST had my '95 M3 rack installed after I discovered this info. FML!!!!!

/thread

[Jesus Christ]

afaik byron has a m rack.

some info.
Okay, I did not read the entire thread, but in fact I barely read any of it, but all I'm going to say is what wh33lhop's cliffs are correct. Here are some measurements that my friend who races an M coupe took from some race car drivers that took the measurements themeselves:

Z3 non-M racks are all the same.
- LINEAR ratio (same rack travel per input turn across the entire rack length)
- 53.5 mm of linear rack travel per 1 360 degree rotation input.
- 144.5 mm of total rack travel (translates to 2.7 turns L2L)
- installed 13.9:1 ratio

Z3 M racks and '96+ E36 M3 racks are the same.
- PROGRESSIVE ratio (rack is slower on-center, quicker towards L&R rack locks)
- 45.5 mm of linear rack travel on-center per 1 360 degree rotation input.
- 145.6 mm of total rack travel(translates to 3.2 turns L2L)
- installed 15.6:1 mean ratio
- Same p/n rack as E36 non-M, but locks were modified to shorten gear travel from 154.7 to 145.6mm

'95 M3 racks are the slowest and shortest of all US-spec E36 racks, until 200 deg of rotation from on-center.
- PROGRESSIVE ratio
- 39.0 mm of linear rack travel on-center per 1 360 degree rotation input.
- 117mm of total rack travel (translates to 3.0 turns L2L)
- installed 17.6:1 mean ratio

And btw, regular z3 rack > z3M rack = regular e36 rack

So the regular z3 rack would be the best. Sucks for me cuz I JUST had my '95 M3 rack installed after I discovered this info. FML!!!!!

/thread

e46 02 and up 330i has a shorter ratio apparently. its what im looking for.