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For me it's all about the lowest possible fender gap (max. 1 finger thick is acceptable in most cases) with the wheels flowing very well with the shape of the car, or the car's fenders as it may be.
For me it's very important how the wheels flow with the car's fenders.
1. Fenders that flare outwards and have a "lip" that goes almost straight down. I like flush wheels with mild stretch the best (example: E36, E30)
2. Fenders that flare smoothly outwards with no or very little lip. I like it when the wheel pokes a bit (not too much though!) and the stretch continues the flow of the fender.
3. Fenders that go straight down. Here, tuck is best, imo. Depending on the car, flush may also look very good.
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Good stuff fellas, I think it's the magic that happens when you combine all of the items or factors mentioned above and you throw it all together and each factor complements the others to work together as one...I like how someone mentioned earlier that it differs from ride to ride.
...however you define it, I'll admit it gets me all hot n' bothered
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Stance to me is all about how it sits. I have seen lifted trucks that sit just right, I have also seen cars and trucks tuck half the wheel into the fender that made my jaw drop. I have also seen 32 ford coupes with no fenders with great stance. To me all of these are examples of good stance. But this is just my humble opinion....
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Originally posted by Rally View PostFlush isn't a requirement of stance...end of story. It's a genre of stance that just happens to be made popular recently by the hellaflush/jdm crowd.Last edited by FreshLikeSushi; 01-06-2010, 03:20 PM.Disclaimer:
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Originally posted by Dr.AK View PostFor me it's all about the lowest possible fender gap (max. 1 finger thick is acceptable in most cases) with the wheels flowing very well with the shape of the car, or the car's fenders as it may be.
For me it's very important how the wheels flow with the car's fenders.
1. Fenders that flare outwards and have a "lip" that goes almost straight down. I like flush wheels with mild stretch the best (example: E36, E30)
2. Fenders that flare smoothly outwards with no or very little lip. I like it when the wheel pokes a bit (not too much though!) and the stretch continues the flow of the fender.
3. Fenders that go straight down. Here, tuck is best, imo. Depending on the car, flush may also look very good.Originally posted by Stephen View Postno.
Poke is not a fad, It dates back to german TUV laws along time ago in germany. This isnt just people pushing there wheels out in the past 3 or 4 years.
You may prefer flushness, as do i, but that doesnt make one stance and the other not.
this isnt to start drama, seriously. im just trying to understand it.
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It comes to an extremely brief answer of: It's a style. Much like "flush" is style, stretch and "poke" is a style.Originally posted by Jesus Christif "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" doesnt include being able to buy a huge veiny motherfucker then the declaration of independence isnt worth the hemp it was written on.Originally posted by Jedidiahhe speaks the truth.. he doesn't even have the -- -- eyes.
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Originally posted by extol1337 View PostIt comes to an extremely brief answer of: It's a style. Much like "flush" is style, stretch and "poke" is a style.
If youre so practical minded, why be this low? Or hell, why even me flush? stock height and tucked is much more practical. Its just the style
Edit: im not trying to come off as a douche, its just the truth. Pretty much all styles of aggressive fitment are impractical. If they werent, im sure all cars would be beefierLast edited by Stephen; 01-06-2010, 03:31 PM.
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Originally posted by FreshLikeSushi View PostBut im just wondering why you guys poke, when there isnt a reason to.
I've run poke for a few years now and never buckled or damaged an arch. That's what stretched tires and camber are for.
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There is tons of reason to run Flush
Being able to go lower than you poke guys, with bigger wheels.
Tight fitment, doesnt include 3 inches of wheel outside of the fenderwell.
I get the style. thats cool. but is there a technical reason behind it?
Like flush, well not even flush, but good fitting wheels. They fit well because they dont hit anything. Being aggressive, and pushing offsets as someone said above, is done while still maintaining full travel of the wheel. If i wanted to run 16" wheels when i should be running 18s, sure i could poke, since my frame would hit before my tire touches the fender.
But some guys arent near low enough for that to happen, so im just seriously inquiring as to the history etc of it. Was it some awesome race legend that started it? Or what rule was it used to skirt in germany as one said above.
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Poke is from the laws in Europe about their tires sticking out their fenders. People wanted to run wider wheels but kept near stock tire sizes and just stretched them while putting them on 2"+ wider wheels.
From a race perspective, wider wheels with stretch (commonly attributed with drifting), would constitute stiffer sidewalls from the stretch and increased section width, but decreased overall contact patch to "lose" traction easier for "drifting."Originally posted by Jesus Christif "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" doesnt include being able to buy a huge veiny motherfucker then the declaration of independence isnt worth the hemp it was written on.Originally posted by Jedidiahhe speaks the truth.. he doesn't even have the -- -- eyes.
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but drifters dont poke, they flush.
im trying to find out where POKE came from.
The flush/w strech came from japan with the VIP cars in the 80s wanting to run wider wheels adn lower offsets. plus to be flush you kinda have to strech a tire.Disclaimer:
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Originally posted by FreshLikeSushi View Postbut drifters dont poke, they flush.
im trying to find out where POKE came from.
The flush/w strech came from japan with the VIP cars in the 80s wanting to run wider wheels adn lower offsets. plus to be flush you kinda have to strech a tire.Originally posted by Jesus Christif "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" doesnt include being able to buy a huge veiny motherfucker then the declaration of independence isnt worth the hemp it was written on.Originally posted by Jedidiahhe speaks the truth.. he doesn't even have the -- -- eyes.
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