A local drifter actually used the caster trick to get more steering angle this past season. I'll see if I can find the info he posted. It's not much, but it might help a little.
EDIT: Found the thread. Here's a post that might help get you guys to understand George aka The Lumberjack:
And here's the posts where he talks about his caster: http://az240sx.org/forums/index.php?...dpost&p=713482 AND http://az240sx.org/forums/index.php?...dpost&p=713486
EDIT: Found the thread. Here's a post that might help get you guys to understand George aka The Lumberjack:
WHOA! Great response. Loving the fact that people actually care about their cars setup.
Chase's settings are pretty spot on. Although -7º front camber is too much UNLESS you have knuckles like he does. With knuckles it's a perfect setting.
Definitely start with close to zero rear camber. Watch how your tire wears with different rear camber. I'd try -0.5º in the rear and see how it goes.
Caster is good at the stock setting or slightly more positive. Too much and the car will drive like balls and you'll have no front grip.
Low cars can DEFINITELY be competitive. I **** this whole stigma around "my car needs to be stock ride height to win". F-that. Come to a TBF comp and I'll deduct 10 points for having a high car. hahahaha
Raising the subframe is also a great upgrade. No downsides and it keeps the rear working much better.
PS. Stay away from Energy suspension rear bushings. It's going to sound crazy but trust me. They are TOO stiff. When the susp compresses on the 240 there are 4 different arms pulling the upright in whatever direction they want to. This causes tons of bind and with ES bushings you basically have a rear end that feels like shit. Stick with OEM or go all out with some sphericals.
Chase's settings are pretty spot on. Although -7º front camber is too much UNLESS you have knuckles like he does. With knuckles it's a perfect setting.
Definitely start with close to zero rear camber. Watch how your tire wears with different rear camber. I'd try -0.5º in the rear and see how it goes.
Caster is good at the stock setting or slightly more positive. Too much and the car will drive like balls and you'll have no front grip.
Low cars can DEFINITELY be competitive. I **** this whole stigma around "my car needs to be stock ride height to win". F-that. Come to a TBF comp and I'll deduct 10 points for having a high car. hahahaha
Raising the subframe is also a great upgrade. No downsides and it keeps the rear working much better.
PS. Stay away from Energy suspension rear bushings. It's going to sound crazy but trust me. They are TOO stiff. When the susp compresses on the 240 there are 4 different arms pulling the upright in whatever direction they want to. This causes tons of bind and with ES bushings you basically have a rear end that feels like shit. Stick with OEM or go all out with some sphericals.
Low rear spring rates + sway bars. Less roll but still squat.
Also, the most important part about drifting is having a cool looking car. DONT FORGET IT ASSHOLES.
Also, the most important part about drifting is having a cool looking car. DONT FORGET IT ASSHOLES.
But I also did some work to where my tire is more vertical at angle and not flopping over and driving on the sidewall. Note how the loaded wheel has less positive camber at angle. This helps SOOO much when drifting and giving you front grip.
Yes, changed the caster. FC suspension is similar to S13 so it doesn't make a difference whether it's s13 or fc we talk about.
I pulled the caster back to +5.5º or so. Lots of caster causes you to have great feedback in the steering and the self centering effect, but too much(especially with knuckles) can "flop" the tire over. That's basically what happened for me last year.
There is not a whole lot of grip on the tires sidewall lettering!
I pulled the caster back to +5.5º or so. Lots of caster causes you to have great feedback in the steering and the self centering effect, but too much(especially with knuckles) can "flop" the tire over. That's basically what happened for me last year.
There is not a whole lot of grip on the tires sidewall lettering!
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