why is camber cool?

[Jersh]

No dude, wasn't even directed at you. Your response totally made good sense, I think it was after that post that he said that drift cars use camber so they don't have grip and then drew up a diagram of how negative camber hurts grip in a turn.

He deleted it before you saw it or I finished my post I guess.

Oh, my bad. Now I feel like an ass. When I read what you wrote I thought you were picking apart what I wrote. I wish I could have seen that post now. I learned about camber, toe, and all of that basic stuff through playing Gran Turismo 4. May not be the most realistic game, but you can learn the effects of this stuff by experimenting with it in a safe, virtual world. It's all about finding that sweet spot where it all comes together, whether it's for looks or for performance.

[AreTee]

I take my words back. It for sure depends on the car.

[HOLES]

i think its coming down to opinion... something i love about stanceworks, we seem to accept everyones.

[cobrawannabe]

I think its case-by-case.
Ghetto measurements on mine show it to be about 7* and I think it looks sick as hell.

I dunno. Mike, you know how much I love your car (you owe me a PM whe you get a chance, BTW), but for some reason, I just can't bring myself to like it when wheels are cambered way out. IMO, you car would have been perfect with a touch of rake and -3* or so.

I can fully understand why it's done, and in some cases, up to 5* can look good. I just have a much different taste in stance than most on here. I love low, I love flush, but cambered out just really isn't for me....


BTW, Petis... I do love the hell out of you car, excpt the camber, of course :P

[Dangler]

i've been down with negative camber since the early days of WTCC and BTCC. Those cars sometimes had silly neg. camber dependent on the track setup.


werd

see around 4:43 at the start grid check their "stance" lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtD5FgkXVIs&feature=related

[TheNeek]

What does it mean when you can see daylight coming from under the tire?

[Jedidiah]

IMHO it doesn't look good, not because of the rear camber, but because the rear is at -6 and the front appears like its 0. that looks stupid. Camber should be relatively close front and rear.(eg -4 front -6 rear) not (-2front -6 rear

This... Camber looks great if it is relative to the front and rears.. one of the other being cambered looks out of place. It takes alot for a car to pull off being slammed with no camber and looking good imo.

As Mike said, it's a case by case basis and there seems to always be an exception to the rule.. thus creating an argument based on absolutes is kinda silly to me. General guidelines is a good thing though.

[aar0n.]

so, by the rational in this thread,this car looks like shit?.......









btw... he has -6* in the rear. Making broad statements about a certain degree of camber looking "stupid" on any car is dumb. It all depends on the car in question.

Post a direct rear shot, chances are it's going to be much more noticeable then and look much worse (in my opinion)

I think there's a balance for each car but too much of it isn't a good thing. Obviously it's a preference and style people like but too much doesn't do it for me

[JerseyKid]

Like most said, its a delicate balance for the looks ... when your this low and this is your style, handling should not be a concern.

[M.Burroughs]

I think its case-by-case.
Ghetto measurements on mine show it to be about 7* and I think it looks sick as hell.

[Petis]

^ I agree Shane, he does need to pull in the camber up front, but he has natural camber all around at this point.... that's right, no camber kit, just slammed it and filled the gap!

[kramerbuccs24]

IMHO it doesn't look good, not because of the rear camber, but because the rear is at -6 and the front appears like its 0. that looks stupid. Camber should be relatively close front and rear.(eg -4 front -6 rear) not (-2front -6 rear

^I agree! Also, 100% agree with this:

Drive low...park lower, correct way to roll bags

[ShanesG]

so, by the rational in this thread,this car looks like shit?.......









btw... he has -6* in the rear. Making broad statements about a certain degree of camber looking "stupid" on any car is dumb. It all depends on the car in question.

IMHO it doesn't look good, not because of the rear camber, but because the rear is at -6 and the front appears like its 0. that looks stupid. Camber should be relatively close front and rear.(eg -4 front -6 rear) not (-2front -6 rear

[ShanesG]

Personally, I think up to 5* or so looks good then it starts to get excessive/awkward.

This!!!

BTW i think NO camber looks just as stupid as excess camber!!!

[Tuck&Poke]

i think for the kind of stuff done here, its personal taste and car specific kind of thing, also depending on wheel offset, ride height, etc. The camber should vary to complete the stance depending on your setup and platform.

While there can be performance benefits, they dont apply in this discussion.