what defines a set of wheels as "real"?

[P78]

wheels are overpriced, just saying...

[Shocktech102]

Good reads! i have to say that i now look at rota with a shifted prospective. I have never owned any rota's mainly because they where to mainstream for me (in reference to the honda fan boy scene haha) but now reading those articles im curious if i may have owned some without even knowing it (ie factory oem wheels).

i would recommend a quick glance over those articles mad ass has found. Still don't shed too much credibility on the Taiwan and chinese wheels but that is not to say their of lesser quality based on what the articles have showed me.

Granted I never bent my stock wheels driving on them, every single wheel has atleast a slight bend on the inner lip. So I guess that furthers my dislike for rota's. Now, I have hit one pothole on a set of Voxx wheels and I bent them . I hit them same pothole on my HRE's due to it being in a spot that is difficult to avoid because of where it is and my they're perfectly fine. I think the quality of the materials is definitely sub-par to "real" wheel manufacturers.

I think we look at rotiform differently because they don't make "knock-offs" as all their wheels and they DO sell multi-piece wheels so it comforts people more. Personally, I believe or at least would like to believe that rotiform is a more quality wheel than say rota.

-Matt

[bobbyjones]

if your wheels where produced after 1995 i'm not impressed.

[Schultz28]

Granted I never bent my stock wheels driving on them, every single wheel has atleast a slight bend on the inner lip. So I guess that furthers my dislike for rota's. Now, I have hit one pothole on a set of Voxx wheels and I bent them . I hit them same pothole on my HRE's due to it being in a spot that is difficult to avoid because of where it is and my they're perfectly fine. I think the quality of the materials is definitely sub-par to "real" wheel manufacturers.

I think we look at rotiform differently because they don't make "knock-offs" as all their wheels and they DO sell multi-piece wheels so it comforts people more. Personally, I believe or at least would like to believe that rotiform is a more quality wheel than say rota.

-Matt

i honestly would bet there is no difference between rotas wheels and rotiforms cast wheels...

[crxmarc]

just fyi you guys realize most of the wheels out today whether its a $10,000 wheelset or a $1,000 wheelset is a replica of something right?

i think the term "fake wheels" should be defined as/used as cast wheels because thats how all these "fake wheel" companies are making their wheels.

i mean i cant say this for a fact or anything but those of you who dislike these "fake wheel" companies but praise rotiform for their cast wheels... do you really think they are made any differently?

with all that being said rotiform makes their own "fake wheel" a replica of their original high end 3pc wheels, but its more acceptable for people to run these "fake wheels" just because they are branded rotiform instead of rota, linea corse, varrstoen, etc?

at the end of the day a cheap wheel is a cheap wheel!

....just some food for thought!

some wheels are replica's or close reproductions of something else but there are still original ideas out there..... atleast i hope haha.

as for defining "fake wheels" isn't 80- 90% of all wheels cast? by your definition a lot of our 'praised' wheel manufactures would be fake. forging is an expensive manufacturing process and was often saved for race wheels due to the cost.

I would believe that there are many variations on the casting process that can separate the quality of a wheel, now how much that separation is and how much it effects the quality is another debate. From my experience casting aluminum a lot can influence quality of the cast (ie mold design, nitrogen proding, ect. if you don't believe me ask a metallurgist)

Granted I never bent my stock wheels driving on them, every single wheel has atleast a slight bend on the inner lip. So I guess that furthers my dislike for rota's. Now, I have hit one pothole on a set of Voxx wheels and I bent them . I hit them same pothole on my HRE's due to it being in a spot that is difficult to avoid because of where it is and my they're perfectly fine. I think the quality of the materials is definitely sub-par to "real" wheel manufacturers.

I think we look at rotiform differently because they don't make "knock-offs" as all their wheels and they DO sell multi-piece wheels so it comforts people more. Personally, I believe or at least would like to believe that rotiform is a more quality wheel than say rota.

-Matt

I have no opinion on rotiform wheels, didn't know much about them before this forum.
I would say however that i think a fairer way of describing wheels and manufactures is sub-par materials and fabrication and higher quality materials and fabrication. its like comparing a BMW and a Hyundai , they both get the job done just for a different price tag and a little different level of quality.

[Icana4dit]

I rocked rota grids on skinny ass tires for a year and hit some potholes REALLY hard. Not even a bend or crack or anything. I trust rotas, but will I rock them again on anything other than a beater? nope.

I love me some 3 piece wheels

[jacbo]

There is a really nice opinion piece on CPR about Rotas and cheap wheels, but being Filipino, I'd guess they're kind of biased and obliged to support rotas (in the same sense that Mike Arcenal has to get defensive and distance himself from them).

Personally, I really only feel strongly about fake splits. That shit's lame as fuck. That's like unvented hood scoops, interfoolers, dummy exhausts and other wannabe parts.

lmao "real" wheels but fake splits

The first set I saw of these in real life really let me down. While the Enkie 92 was always an affordable cast wheel, the apache series was a real, albeit welded 3pc wheel. Cast centers and spun lips. I expected... well I guess I should say I was hoping for a little more out of Enkie.

Needless to say I'm going to look at these rereleases a little differently now.

[michealis]

Enkei = Rota too, I think that's why they are affordable.

[jasonklee]

http://s3mag.com/blog/?p=4237

[RubbderDucky]

if your wheels where produced after 1995 i'm not impressed.

What about a set of Gen 1 AMG Penta's? Lol.

I'd rather spend 4k for a real set of BBS RS than a knock off set for cheaper, just for the quality of the wheel.

[MrNiceGuy]

I say, in most cases, if its forged its real

[bobbyjones]

I say, in most cases, if its forged its real

x2

[Schultz28]

I say, in most cases, if its forged its real

this.

and vice versa in most cases if its cast its oem or fake....

[rice4life]

Knockoffs probably cost more than my wheels are worth... smh

I would never rock knock offs. Most people who are for them probably own them. It's just like the difference between a paper boat and a real one.

[1988montecarloss]

No, you don't see Enkei advertising saying they have been making Honda/acura wheels for last 3 decades.

I guess my low post counts on here makes me a newb that needs to proove thy self.

im pretty sure enkei made the 16" corvette sawblade wheels too