Jaguar 5X120.65mm on an E36?

[PhilipWOT]

I work at a Jaguar repair shop, and I found this dusty old set of 95 XJR wheels in the back of the shop. My boss said I can have them, but they're 17x8 et33, and the bolt pattern is 5x120.65. That's pretty close to 5x120, but I'm not sure if it will vibrate and be all shitty. I might test fit them later today if the tires will hold air.

Does anybody have any experience with this?

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Thanks,
-Philip

[Dani]

Ill say wobble bolts to be on the safe side.

[Jorge]

You'll need spigot rings too, I fitted a style 19 to my friends XJ40 but the CB was way too large. the bolts however did all line up find. Just like Vett wheels.

[PhilipWOT]

I test-fit them yesterday, and the 255/45's were too big. I'm putting some 225's on them. No wobble bolts needed, I just torqued the wheel bolts down in about 4 steps. It took a while, but everything ended up even.
Where can I find spiggot rings? I dont even know what that is.

Edit: Here's the thread with photos

http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34860

[motocaddy]

no need for wobble bolts, but you do need hub rings (spigot in UK).

[electricalbox]

I test-fit them yesterday, and the 255/45's were too big. I'm putting some 225's on them. No wobble bolts needed, I just torqued the wheel bolts down in about 4 steps. It took a while, but everything ended up even.
Where can I find spiggot rings? I dont even know what that is.

Edit: Here's the thread with photos

http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=34860

Pretty sure the bolt's seat isn't sitting on correctly. Even if the wheels utilize a larger shank diameter bolt, I doubt it will seat correctly. I would use PCD variation bolts just to be safe.

Looks good on the car!

[motocaddy]

Pretty sure the bolt's seat isn't sitting on correctly. Even if the wheels utilize a larger shank diameter bolt, I doubt it will seat correctly. I would use PCD variation bolts just to be safe.

This is how bad information gets circulated...people not knowing what they're talking about proclaiming it "won't seat correctly." The difference between 5x120 and 5x120.65 is .13mm per hole. Much less than a human hair, within a lot of manufacturing tolerances and not enough to keep the bolt/wheel from seating.

[PhilipWOT]

This is how bad information gets circulated...people not knowing what they're talking about proclaiming it "won't seat correctly." The difference between 5x120 and 5x120.65 is .13mm per hole. Much less than a human hair, within a lot of manufacturing tolerances and not enough to keep the bolt/wheel from seating.

That was what I thought as well. Thanks for the information. The hub diameters are only 1.34mm difference, and the hub/spiggot rings that I found are about $120 shipped, so I'm going test fit these wheels with the proper tire size later and see if theres any vibration at speed.

[electricalbox]

This is how bad information gets circulated...people not knowing what they're talking about proclaiming it "won't seat correctly." The difference between 5x120 and 5x120.65 is .13mm per hole. Much less than a human hair, within a lot of manufacturing tolerances and not enough to keep the bolt/wheel from seating.

LOL he is mounting a wheel that is not hubcentric and the PCD doesn't match regardless of the difference in distance. If he is comfortable with it fine, I said "pretty sure" & "doubt" not "proclaim" .

If one or more of his bolts backs out that 1.34 difference on his hub could easily shift the wheel and turn it all to shit (more than likely just a slight vibration). It is highly unlikely and sure I bet you can easily do it with 1mm difference, but I said "just to be safe" lol what a proclaimation.

"Bad information" telling someone to get correct PCD/hub wheels or use something to make it correct.

[Jroc]

That was what I thought as well. Thanks for the information. The hub diameters are only 1.34mm difference, and the hub/spiggot rings that I found are about $120 shipped, so I'm going test fit these wheels with the proper tire size later and see if theres any vibration at speed.

tire rack has hubrings for like 15$

[JVC]

That was what I thought as well. Thanks for the information. The hub diameters are only 1.34mm difference, and the hub/spiggot rings that I found are about $120 shipped, so I'm going test fit these wheels with the proper tire size later and see if theres any vibration at speed.

Try Amazon or eBay for hub rings... shouldn't be more than $20 for plastic or like $40 for aluminum ones, $120 seems high, unless thats a price for spacers with a different size centerbore for the wheels vs the hub.

[PhilipWOT]

tire rack has hubrings for like 15$

Oh, thanks for the info. I'll look into it.

Try Amazon or eBay for hub rings... shouldn't be more than $20 for plastic or like $40 for aluminum ones, $120 seems high, unless thats a price for spacers with a different size centerbore for the wheels vs the hub.

No, they were just CNC machined hub rings. I guess I just didnt know where to look.

As for the bolt pattern- I was able to line the holes up and hand-turn the wheel bolts into the hubs without any binding. I think I'll be fine without any special bolts, but I havent tested them at speed to know for sure. I would definitely like to take care of the hub rings though. If I can find a decently cheap aluminum set I will get them.

Edit: Well, that was easy

http://www.summitracing.com/search/Department/Wheels-Tires/Part-Type/Hub-Centric-Rings/Inside-Diameter-mm/72-56mm/?Ns=Rank|Asc

[vgrntbeauxner]

Pretty sure the bolt's seat isn't sitting on correctly. Even if the wheels utilize a larger shank diameter bolt, I doubt it will seat correctly. I would use PCD variation bolts just to be safe.

Seats just fine, but must be hubcentric for certain.

[motocaddy]

LOL he is mounting a wheel that is not hubcentric and the PCD doesn't match regardless of the difference in distance. If he is comfortable with it fine, I said "pretty sure" & "doubt" not "proclaim" .

If one or more of his bolts backs out that 1.34 difference on his hub could easily shift the wheel and turn it all to shit (more than likely just a slight vibration). It is highly unlikely and sure I bet you can easily do it with 1mm difference, but I said "just to be safe" lol what a proclaimation.

"Bad information" telling someone to get correct PCD/hub wheels or use something to make it correct.

If "pretty sure" means "not at all sure" and "doubt" means "have no idea," then perhaps best to not post anything.

Also, you didn't write anything about the centerbore being off in your initial post, but I had that covered, as well:

no need for wobble bolts, but you do need hub rings (spigot in UK).

[brandyn]

Rare ti?
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Why u no post pic here.....but to my phone? :|