5x114 to 5x112

[dubcivic]

my hub pattern is 5x114.3 and i have a set of 5x112 wheels id like to put on. Is it possible to have the wheel lugs drilled out to fit?

[electricalbox]

Yes it is, but there are a ton of things you need to know (can be found easily by search).

It is called lug pattern or PCD, not hub pattern.

Speaking of hub (referring to hub size), make sure your hub bore is same size or smaller than the wheels. If same size great, if smaller you want hub rings, if larger you need to bore out the wheel hub to fit or run spacers/adapters (could be used to convert PCD like that depending on desired offset).

You can use PCD variation AKA wobble nuts/bolts (guessing you need nuts since most 5x114.3 utilizes studs instead of bolts) instead of redrilling them. This is done all the time and with only 2.3mm of difference it is more than safe with proper installation.

Redrilling will simply be an elongation of the 5x112 lug holes then steel inserts will be pressed in at 5x114.3mm size. Or quite possibly a dual drill can be performed depending on the wheels hub mating surface and your preference.

Please search next time, most people will just tell you to search and won't spend the 5 minutes to type this out.

& welcome to SW.

[D&W]

thanks for the explanation, Ive never really known all the details there and it was nice to read it all in one go!

Yes it is, but there are a ton of things you need to know (can be found easily by search).

It is called lug pattern or PCD, not hub pattern.

Speaking of hub (referring to hub size), make sure your hub bore is same size or smaller than the wheels. If same size great, if smaller you want hub rings, if larger you need to bore out the wheel hub to fit or run spacers/adapters (could be used to convert PCD like that depending on desired offset).

You can use PCD variation AKA wobble nuts/bolts (guessing you need nuts since most 5x114.3 utilizes studs instead of bolts) instead of redrilling them. This is done all the time and with only 2.3mm of difference it is more than safe with proper installation.

Redrilling will simply be an elongation of the 5x112 lug holes then steel inserts will be pressed in at 5x114.3mm size. Or quite possibly a dual drill can be performed depending on the wheels hub mating surface and your preference.

Please search next time, most people will just tell you to search and won't spend the 5 minutes to type this out.

& welcome to SW.

[electricalbox]

thanks for the explanation, Ive never really known all the details there and it was nice to read it all in one go!

No problem, glad it could help more than one person.

[dubcivic]

thanks for the response. sorry im still a little confused tho since im a noob. so i can use wobble bolts/nuts if im going from a 5x114.3 down to a 5x112?

[electricalbox]

thanks for the response. sorry im still a little confused tho since im a noob. so i can use wobble bolts/nuts if im going from a 5x114.3 down to a 5x112?

yes

[fuhfuh.Focus]

Bumping an old thread.

How does this work exactly? What if the 5x112 wheel in question won't go on the studs? Or am I not trying hard enough or something? haha

[electricalbox]

Bumping an old thread.

How does this work exactly? What if the 5x112 wheel in question won't go on the studs? Or am I not trying hard enough or something? haha

If it is truly a 5x114.3 wheel on a 5x112 car, or vice versa, it will push onto the studs with only one exception. Make sure that the studs can first of all fit the lug hole. A lot of 5x114.3 wheels utilize m12 shank diameter studs/bolts (diameter of the bolt that screws in) where most newer 5x112 applications use a m14 shank size. This can be fixed by opening the bore of the lug bolt holes with a 5/8th bit (15.9mm) to accommodate the m14 studs/bolts.

[fuhfuh.Focus]

If it is truly a 5x114.3 wheel on a 5x112 car, or vice versa, it will push onto the studs with only one exception. Make sure that the studs can first of all fit the lug hole. A lot of 5x114.3 wheels utilize m12 shank diameter studs/bolts (diameter of the bolt that screws in) where most newer 5x112 applications use a m14 shank size. This can be fixed by opening the bore of the lug bolt holes with a 5/8th bit (15.9mm) to accommodate the m14 studs/bolts.

Ok so you think I could safely bore out the lug holes on the wheel with a 5/8th bit and then use wobble lug nuts?

With a little tinkering and a rubber mallet I was able to get the wheel on a little futher, but not all the way seated.