Rebuilding SSR Professors

[KarlSpackler]

Ok Jaze, we can go round and round about this. You can do ^ to a style 5 too.

Again, just dont think they should advertise those as 3 piece wheels

[Jesus Christ]

you can actually still spilt the welded ones, so they arent fake splits. its just alum not RTV.

here's a an example of a wheel that was welded, then separated.

[Jesus Christ]

the difference is that 3 piece wheels that are welded have a visible bead where they were welded like those ARE RS's look a likes and some even have solder that can be heated to separate them. 2 piece wheels are a solid barrel like style 5's.

Just think of the welded bead as the sealant. They are constructed of 3 separate pieces, then bonded.



this is a 2 piece wheel barrel, no seam, just one piece. similar to a style 5.

[KarlSpackler]

I mean by that measure, pretty much all 2 piece wheels including Style 5's are "3 piece wheels". Most of all of 2 piece wheels I have seen or worked on were built this way.

[KarlSpackler]

I've seen a lot of old school wheels that were bolted then welded as well.

I agree completely. I have seen a ton my self: SSR Formula Mesh, Work Equips, BBS RM's have the face and barrel welded but you can replace lips.

My problem is the above 3 wheels are advertised as 2 piece wheels.

I just think it is crazy for SSR to advertise the SP1s or any of their other "3 pcs" wheels as such.

[SeanDub]

I've seen a lot of old school wheels that were bolted then welded as well.

[Ollie]

This is actually more common in the wheel world then you think. For example 17" Meister S1s are 2 piece wheels but the face is welded to the barrel making it "1 piece". Work calls them 2 piece. Bolted 3 piece wheels aren't used on race cars because they are strongest, but because part replacement is easier. A lot of street wheels start out at 3 piece and are welded for strength, they don't care whether or not the customer can put bigger lips on them in 15 years.

But James understand I don't go around calling DRWs 2 piece wheels.

Welded = FAKESLPITS hahahaha

But on the real I'm sure if you call work and order custom wheels and ask them not to weld them into a 1 piece wheel they wont

Yeah.. I've order custom works and they wouldn't use bolts instead of welding on mine.. not their choice. Just depends on the wheel

[FittedDownLow]

Welded = FAKESLPITS hahahaha

But on the real I'm sure if you call work and order custom wheels and ask them not to weld them into a 1 piece wheel they wont

[SeanDub]

Yup, I've seen a lot of welded 3 piece wheels.

[Ollie]

It's not me or anyone else in this thread. It is industry standard that says they are crazy for calling the SP1s or any other wheel in their line constructed like the above a 3 piece wheel. Actually, I wont ever look at buying NEW SSR wheels now because of this thread and if it wasnt for a dead-beat company, I would have SSR SP1s on the E30 M3 right now. I actually ordered and paid for them and it took me 7 months to get my money back.

Call up BBS or Work or Rotiform............ ask them what a 3 piece wheel is. Then ask them what a 2 piece wheel is.

Your right, my opinion doesnt mean shit but when 95% of the wheel industry will agree with me, then I know a little more than you think.

For example, BBS LM - 2 piece wheel. Built like a 3 piece wheel, then BBS welded the barrels and lips together with the face separate. Hence 2 PIECES. (unless they are like the ones on my car )

My SSR Formula Mesh wheels are 2 piece wheels. How did SSR get that right? The barrles and lips are welded together.................

To go off SSR's thinking, the SP1s are actually 29 piece wheels. 1 lip, 1 barrel, 1 face, 25 bolts and 1 center cap. Should we add in the valve stems too?

This is actually more common in the wheel world then you think. For example 17" Meister S1s are 2 piece wheels but the face is welded to the barrel making it "1 piece". Work calls them 2 piece. Bolted 3 piece wheels aren't used on race cars because they are strongest, but because part replacement is easier. A lot of street wheels start out at 3 piece and are welded for strength, they don't care whether or not the customer can put bigger lips on them in 15 years.

[KarlSpackler]

well . . I doubt that your opinion is any "measurement" for what a wheel company calls it's wheels . . just because they are welded together doesn't make em less "3-piece" . . that's they way they were produced, that's they way SSR calls em . . and I do belive (maybe I'm wrong . . but I would be surprised) that SSR knows more about wheels than anybody here . . .

again . . just because you guys don't like the facts, doesn't mean they're true ..

As someone said up top there the wheel is constructed out of 3 pieces so yes it is a 3 piece wheel.

It is kind of weird but I do get why the welded it to cover their own ass.

It's not me or anyone else in this thread. It is industry standard that says they are crazy for calling the SP1s or any other wheel in their line constructed like the above a 3 piece wheel. Actually, I wont ever look at buying NEW SSR wheels now because of this thread and if it wasnt for a dead-beat company, I would have SSR SP1s on the E30 M3 right now. I actually ordered and paid for them and it took me 7 months to get my money back.

Call up BBS or Work or Rotiform............ ask them what a 3 piece wheel is. Then ask them what a 2 piece wheel is.

Your right, my opinion doesnt mean shit but when 95% of the wheel industry will agree with me, then I know a little more than you think.

For example, BBS LM - 2 piece wheel. Built like a 3 piece wheel, then BBS welded the barrels and lips together with the face separate. Hence 2 PIECES. (unless they are like the ones on my car )

My SSR Formula Mesh wheels are 2 piece wheels. How did SSR get that right? The barrles and lips are welded together.................

To go off SSR's thinking, the SP1s are actually 29 piece wheels. 1 lip, 1 barrel, 1 face, 25 bolts and 1 center cap. Should we add in the valve stems too?

[Dave_The_BMXER]

As someone said up top there the wheel is constructed out of 3 pieces so yes it is a 3 piece wheel.

It is kind of weird but I do get why the welded it to cover their own ass.

[MrZog]

^ Those arent 3 piece wheels. I dont care what SSR says. If they cant be split with a 2 socket wrenches; they arent 3 piece wheels.

well . . I doubt that your opinion is any "measurement" for what a wheel company calls it's wheels . . just because they are welded together doesn't make em less "3-piece" . . that's they way they were produced, that's they way SSR calls em . . and I do belive (maybe I'm wrong . . but I would be surprised) that SSR knows more about wheels than anybody here . . .

again . . just because you guys don't like the facts, doesn't mean they're true ..

[KarlSpackler]

http://www.ssr-wheels.com/wheels/sp1_17181920.asp

just hover your mouse on the 3pc logo above the wheel image.



same goes for any of they're 3pc designed wheels. depending if the face is top mounted, the face may be removable.

^ Those arent 3 piece wheels. I dont care what SSR says. If they cant be split with a 2 socket wrenches; they arent 3 piece wheels.

[MrZog]

fascinating how ppl can asking the same question over and over again just because they don't like the answer they were given . .

thats dumb. so you cant just get bigger lips for these wheels?!

wheel manufacturers first concern sure isn't the guy who does buy their wheels 3rd hand and that he can take them apart and put cheap parts from a different manufacturer on . . if they think that the wheel is safer or more enduring with welded barrels . . then there's nothing "dumb" about that . .