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    So having no car, whats the most reasonable ting to do. buy some wheels
    Okey here goes my progress thread, doing this so i have something to look back on.
    This was done all by me, these are by no means perfect. but they are way better then when i started on them. Im planing on changing the lips anyways, since someone has already taken the wheels apart at least once, and has not done a very good job.
    Some of you may know that the three piece acs wheels were made by OZ, and the OZ wheel nuts and bolts are not 12point like BBS, but 10point. So you can not go into a normal hardware store and pickup a socket. You need to order a 10point socket set, and they cost around 100-150$. but someone that took my wheels apart, in the past obviously did not have the tool available, so they have used a angel grinder and cut them all off, when they put the wheels back together, they have used unoriginal 6mm (huge no no) bolts and nuts. The hols are 7mm, and the bolts being 6mm they have bin wiggling around, and leaving a mark in the lips. So if i buy the original bolts, they will not cover up the marks.
    so my plan was to make the lips shine again, and reseal them correct. And sometime down the line, i will buy new lips, bolts and nuts.

    i will keep a price list of everything ive bought so far. prices are in danish kroner.
    wheels 4700
    shipping 1200
    taxes 2100
    sand paper 96
    autosol 40

    so far 8036kr equals to around 1500usd.

    the wheels are sized 17x8.5et13 and 17x10et19, they came with tires in sizes of 215/40's sunny's and 245/35 falken's.
    so i wanted to test the stretch of the sunny's, and pirelli's 195/40.

    I mounted the tires myself, and those that are having a hard time getting tires to stretch. i know a method that works every time for me, and normally on the first try.
    i have no pictures of this, or video since i was by my self. but you want the tire to sit on a angle. kinda hard to explain but were the valve is, you want the top of the tire sitting op against the rim, and the other side want the tire to lay down the bottom of the rim so the tire sits at an angle. if its done this way, it leaves a gap on the other side were the valve is.
    now its time for spraying some starter gas into the wheel, Do Notover do it, it takes a very little amount of gas to make it pop up. i normally do it this way, were the gap opens on one side, i start spraying and start moving quickly to the other side were the gap closes spraying all the time, then i move back to the middle of the gap, and start spraying up on the tire down to the tread of the tire, this is were i set fire to the starter gas, you will see the fire going up the threads towards the gap, and the tire will pop up, when the tire pops up you will need to start putting air in the tire so it seats against the rim. its critical to time it correct and voila the tire is on.
    by the way, if you read all of this jibber jabber. i hope it makes sense. since im hungover from last night. and having a hard time putting words down.

    anyhow enough talk, time for some pictures. hope they work, first time using flickr. oh and sorry for the camera phone.

    DSC00649 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    8.5's and 10's side by side.


    DSC00653 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    215/40 on 10"


    DSC00654 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    195/40 on 8.5"


    DSC00655 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    wheels and coils, pre-refinishing.


    DSC00652 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    wheels pre-refinishing.


    DSC00659 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    test fitted on a friends car. It needs a bunch more low.


    DSC00660 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    fronts.

    Oh well, i got a bit side tracked. refinishing time.


    DSC00662 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    start dismounting them, here you can see how the bolts have left a mark.


    DSC00663 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    all the bolts out.


    DSC00665 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    bolts, nuts and centercap.


    DSC00664 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    here you can see the marks on the face, left by the grinder.


    DSC00666 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    laid the wheel flat, and stomped on the face. felt right out.


    DSC00669 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    condition of the lip.


    DSC00668 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    condition of the lip.


    DSC00667 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr


    DSC00670 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    started with 400wet. its very important to keep plenty of water, its because you want a smooth surface. when sanding normally you want a rough surface so the paint has something to stick to. but when you want to polish the lips, you want it smooth.
    you wet sand because the water will run down taking away the small (insert proper word, think its called particals) that might scratch the surface.


    DSC00677 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    started 400wet.


    DSC00672 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    then my mom came with this, its called rens-let. translated to clean-easy.
    its steel wool, its supermotherf*ckingchainsawawesome for leaning the wheel pre-sanding.


    DSC00671 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    Rens-let. in action.


    DSC00673 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    this is after rens-let only. and a little of polishing.
    i use this stuff called autosol, its awesome.


    DSC00674 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    got a sponge on a drill for polishing, its nice. tho i would like this cloth ball. since the foam is so fragile.


    DSC00675 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    had to test a little bit, this is rens-let, 400wet and autosol.

    ill post more, going to eat. currently im done with one wheel, except the center. because it will be professional painted.
    Last edited by Zic; 08-21-2011, 10:55 AM.
    -Instagram@jdjurhuus
    Stretchsaurus and Pokemon.

  • #2
    By the way i started refinishing them because they could not hold air. previous owner did a bad job sealing the wheels.


    DSC00676 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    400wet, and autosol.


    DSC00678 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    400wet. i bought the paper in a size about 30x30cm and used one sheet of it on each phase.
    when switching from a very used paper to a new paper, its like wooooh hooo who kicked in the turboboostacumolator. and you feel like your sanding five times better.


    DSC00679 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    400wet. the marks left by the bolts and huge ass scratches. and pitying of the lips.


    DSC00680 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    pitying and marks. you can get them out by sanding, tho it takes a long time.
    you can start at 180grit if your wheels are in really bad condition.


    DSC00682 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    getting bored of this? had to try autosol once more, and lay another wheel up against it, to see the difference.


    DSC00684 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    i was pleased with the wheels so i started on 800. could have done better, tho as i plan changing the lips i stopped.


    DSC00685 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    800. wet of course. i use a mix of soap and water.


    DSC00686 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    1500wet.


    DSC00687 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    1500wet. There is no air in the tire by the way.


    DSC00690 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    1500wet on the right, no autosol.
    the one on the left, is the wheel that was in the best condition.


    DSC00692 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    2000wet.


    DSC00691 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    2000wet, when sanding do it on direction all the time. do not do like circles because it will show through when you polish the lips.


    DSC00693 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    2000wet.


    DSC00694 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    autosol put on, then smeared out with the foam pad on the drill.


    DSC00695 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    autosol'ed they need a good wash and a layer of some sort of break dust protector.


    DSC00696 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    comparison between old and new. you can see some curb rash on the top.


    DSC00698 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    time to fix the rash. popped the tire of, used a tire machine. you can also see how narrow the 215. the tire is still seated on the rim on the rear.


    DSC00699 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    pried the lip off, using a tire iron, putting the tire iron against the back side of the rim, and using the tire as a pivot point.


    DSC00700 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    lip of, you can see the junk on there.


    DSC00701 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    on the left is the barrel on the right the lip.
    used a wire wheel to clean the sealant off the surface area, then used 180grit dry to sand it clean. this was done to the back side of the lip and top side of the barrel.
    you can also notice that the rim of the lip is kinda dull, that is because i used 180grit dry on a sander to fix the curb rash. then moved to 400dry.


    DSC00702 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    here you can notice the area were the sealant shall go.
    i noticed that there are numbers stamped on the barrel and lip. and the number is 3. i have no idea about this, i think they shall line up when putting the wheels back together.
    i also sanded were the tire seals up against the rim with 400dry, then gave it some autosol.


    DSC00703 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    lips, really dusty because of the dry sanding.


    DSC00704 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
    lips, a quick clean.

    so the status is, lips are done, barrels are done. faces need painting. when they are done, ill show how to properly seal the wheel.
    Last edited by Zic; 08-21-2011, 10:53 AM.
    -Instagram@jdjurhuus
    Stretchsaurus and Pokemon.

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    • #3

      *Update 22/08-11*

      Yeah, i should go do that.
      Or sell my soul and get them


      DSC00715 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Oh no, what is this i see here?! Yes, yes, i think those are a 12point M7x32mm wheel bolts.
      Got them for free, no sorry, i did not lose my soul. Its because there are 32 bolts missing
      I will use these when im gonna seal the wheels, then swap them out when i get new ones.
      *fun fact, these are my old bolts, witch i sold whit the RH zw1's that i was building, they can be seen in my e30build. I got them back, because when i sold him the wheels he got a full set of gold wheel bolts.*


      DSC00705 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Here you can see how the 6mm bolts have left a mark in the lips, due to wiggling.


      DSC00706 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Everyone loves wheels.


      DSC00707 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Rens-let in action, its really great. i recommend it to everyone that is gonna refinish the wheels, its designed to was ovens and kitchen stuff like that.


      DSC00709 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      The retards in action. When they have cut the OZ bolts of, they cut groves into the backside of the face.


      DSC00710 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      400grit wet.


      DSC00711 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Got a bit side tracked, how cool would it be to make a three piece throwing star.


      DSC00712 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      800grit wet.


      DSC00713 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      1500grit wet.
      I forgot to take a picture at 2000grit wet. but you get the point i hope.


      DSC00716 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Oh, this is a must have mod. hearing the sound of sand paper is annoying. Ipod to the rescue.


      DSC00719 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Thought this was a cool picture, lip in the front is 90% done, second lip is worked on for about a minute the autosol will turn black, third lip has a layer of autosol on.


      DSC00720 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      This is why i recommend a cloth ball. the foam is ripped into pieces. but it held up for all the wheels.


      DSC00721 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Lips 90% done have to fix some curb rash, and sand them were they are gonna be sealed.

      *Update 23/08-11*

      Time for fixing the curb rash and split the lips from the barrels.


      DSC00723 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      on my way to a friend to use the tire machine, and sander.


      DSC00724 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      example of the curb rash, there were spots that were worst than that.


      DSC00726 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      ready to pop the bead of the lips.


      DSC00727 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      beads popped off.


      DSC00728 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      This is how i pry the lips of the barrels.


      DSC00730 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Starting to split, you can see how i use the wheel as a pivot point.


      DSC00732 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Lips off the barrels.


      DSC00733 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Ready to get worked on.


      DSC00735 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Here you can see the sealer. that we want off, its the gray junk going along the edge.


      DSC00736 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      first weapon of choice, air powered saw. just to get the worst bit off.


      DSC00738 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Second choice, a little air powered grinder with a really worn wire wheel on.


      DSC00739 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      After working with the wire wheel.


      DSC00741 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Third weapon of choice, wire wheel on a grinder. this was by far the best, but do not force the wire wheel on the barrel, because you will get huge ass marks in there.


      DSC00742 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      After working on with the wire wheel, i went with 180grit on a sander.


      DSC00745 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Barrels and lips done. after 180 grit.


      DSC00746 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Sanding with 180grit on the rear of the lips, because im gonna run stretch tires, this part is gonna be shown.


      DSC00747 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Working with 180grit on the rim of the lip, to get curb rash off.


      DSC00750 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Then used 400grit on the rim, and backside of the lip.


      DSC00752 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Got the wheels home.


      DSC00753 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      Started polishing the rim of the lip, and backside.


      DSC00754 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      The foam is torn to pieces, it used to be two or three times as big.


      DSC00756 by Djurhuus zic, on Flickr
      All the lips done, and when having two younger siblings dragging bikes and stuff like that in and out of the shed, its worth banging in a few nails to keep the lips out of reach, so they don't lose something on them or bump in them.
      Last edited by Zic; 08-24-2011, 02:39 AM.
      -Instagram@jdjurhuus
      Stretchsaurus and Pokemon.

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      • #4
        Picking up were we last left off. Friday i ordered the correct bolts.



        DSC00760 by J.Djurhuus, on Flickr
        i decided to use paint stripper to get the paint of the faces.


        DSC00767 by J.Djurhuus, on Flickr
        use gloves because if you get it on you, it will burn like a motherf*cker.


        DSC00765 by J.Djurhuus, on Flickr
        Put it on, first you put a layer on. let it work for about 5-10mins, you will be able to see the paint bubble up, after the wait. you put on a second layer. let it work for about 20mins, then its time to hose all of the stuff of. Or put more on, if all of the paint is not coming off.


        DSC00769 by J.Djurhuus, on Flickr
        here you can see the paint pealing off.


        DSC00768 by J.Djurhuus, on Flickr

        After this, i sent them out of paint.


        DSC00832 by J.Djurhuus, on Flickr
        back from paint


        DSC00831 by J.Djurhuus, on Flickr


        DSC00833 by J.Djurhuus, on Flickr
        setting up for putting the window sealer on.


        DSC00834 by J.Djurhuus, on Flickr
        sealer on.


        DSC00842 by J.Djurhuus, on Flickr
        here is the best picture i have after i put the lips on, and tightened them down, using the 6mm bolts (they will get changed)


        DSC00850 by J.Djurhuus, on Flickr
        had to put the tire on, and check the fitment after i worked the fenders a a bit.
        Last edited by Zic; 09-06-2011, 04:24 AM.
        -Instagram@jdjurhuus
        Stretchsaurus and Pokemon.

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        • #5
          Good stuff, that previous guy had some balls driving with the wrong bolts, fuck that.

          Waaay too late for you but for anyone else refinishing their OZ's

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          • #6
            It is about time someone made a cheap 10pt tool.

            Great work so far, majorly jealous of the wheels. Where did you find such a perfect sized set?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jorge View Post
              It is about time someone made a cheap 10pt tool.

              Great work so far, majorly jealous of the wheels. Where did you find such a perfect sized set?
              Fucking aye. Talk about "specialist tool" mark up

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              • #8
                Thanks for the link, and the comments.

                I found it on bilgalleri.dk, they have a wheel classified there. From time to time, some nice wheels pop up.

                And being on a budget, it really hurts my progress that i will need to buy 140bolts and nuts, they are so damn pricey. Ooooh well, time to sell some coke
                -Instagram@jdjurhuus
                Stretchsaurus and Pokemon.

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                • #9
                  Or get on a corner maybe both for real quick moneys

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                  • #10
                    Updated post number three, the first reply there is for you Anonymoose.
                    -Instagram@jdjurhuus
                    Stretchsaurus and Pokemon.

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                    • #11
                      Starting to come out really nice man. One of my favourite wheels.
                      91 Golf Rebuild - slow as fuck right now

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                      • #12
                        Thanks man one of my favorite wheels as well, had to have them when i saw them.
                        Updated post number three.

                        And im ordering wheel bolts and nuts soon, and some AC schnitzer stickers.
                        Whats left is - ordering parts, getting the centers repainted, get some sealer, resemble the wheels and mount the tires.
                        -Instagram@jdjurhuus
                        Stretchsaurus and Pokemon.

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                        • #13
                          Updated post4.
                          centers back from paint, sealed, tires on and test fitted on my car.
                          -Instagram@jdjurhuus
                          Stretchsaurus and Pokemon.

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                          • #14
                            Pics!

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                            • #15
                              Gorgeous. Always thought these had a Ronal Teddy Bear look to them. Amazing wheels none the less!

                              Originally posted by Rion
                              I have 4 cheater switches that fill things some people put groceries in that in return makes me a female dog in heat.

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