toyo proxies 4 vs Falken 452's

[Fabrikator]

im running FK452.. 235/30/20 on a 9.5", and 255/30 on a 10.5".. a mild stretch compared to most, and after 3 weeks one of my rears got a 4" bubble.. Falken refused to acknowledge a bubbling issue with these tires, and wouldnt warranty them.. the best they offered me is half price on a new one.

I was super happy with the falkens, stretch, looks, performance, everything.. until they bubbled.

next set im just gonna shell out a bit more $ and get Toyo T1Rs

[edd]

mine 245/35/19 on a 10.5

[4DGS]

It's never happened to me on any of the sets. I've never had any issues with them, that's all im getting at. For a potential buyer I think both opinions should count just as much, not just yours.

I never said don't listen to any other opinions or that my opinion trumps any others.

Just shared my shit experiences with Falken and stretching.

[KarlSpackler]

And that's what I did spackler

Let us know how they work

[Tuck&Poke]

I never said I've only used them once, I've stretched about 10 sets of FKs (not by choice obviously)

The mounter is a Coats, so it is definitely not to blame lol

Run flats come off easier...

What about the retarded bubbling in them, where's your defense for that?

It's never happened to me on any of the sets. I've never had any issues with them, that's all im getting at. For a potential buyer I think both opinions should count just as much, not just yours.

[billy370gt]

Then go buy them and have fun.

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And that's what I did spackler

[MrFukengruven]

That failure doesnt look like it was caused by stretch.

+1 look at that camber wear OWW

[aar0n.]

What about the retarded bubbling in them, where's your defense for that?

I've seen bubbling in 452s but almost never on 512s. I've had Toyo T1Rs too and personally prefer how my 512s stretch over the T1Rs

[4DGS]

I never said I've only used them once, I've stretched about 10 sets of FKs (not by choice obviously)

The mounter is a Coats, so it is definitely not to blame lol

Run flats come off easier...

What about the retarded bubbling in them, where's your defense for that?

[Tuck&Poke]

Literally unmounted and mounted them myself ( albeit half drunk ). Perhaps there was an issue with your particular set, perhaps the wheels, maybe your machine was acting up that day. I don't know, all i know is because it happened to you once, you can't say "they are all bad, this is fact" Its misleading to people who might actually be interested in them. Just like I heard that they bubble from a couple of people, but i know many more that have never had that issue, including myself, through 3 sets.

[4DGS]

Well if you guys have had good luck with em, keep on going.

I don't know how many of your guys mount your own tires but I prefer my tires to come off easily, FKs do not.

Therefore I do not recommend FKs, since I have never had issues with Toyos, coming off. I recommend them 100% over falkens.

That being said my current tires are RE-11s.

[*96tegls*]

TOYO all day

[aar0n.]

What I am saying, is that I unmount my own tires and it's a bitch to do. If someone brought me 225/35 FKs on a 10 (like mine were) I'd charge them twice or tell them to go somewhere else.

I cut them off because they don't have any stretch like every other tire I have mounted and unmounted.

I also had about a 7" bubble on the inside of the sidewall after about 10k

I will never stretch Falkens again... I actually won't buy Falkens again in general.

You're definitely in the minority when it comes to your opinion on stretched Falkens bc a good percentage of cars with stretched tires are running them without problems and people like the stretch they provide.

I still think that those cut tires are strange. I understand what you're saying about them being hard to dismount but I've had my 225/40/18 Falken 512s mounted and dismounted on my 18x10s multiple times with zero issues and dismounting was as easy as mounting them

[Tuck&Poke]

I have 452's, 215/40's on an 18x10, i just took them off friday to flip them... no cutting, they have around 10K miles on them. Also running just south of 3deg of camber. I have had zero issues with 452's they stretch good, the have handled any abuse i put them through.

It has a lot of stretch, the car is over 3000lbs and im running almost 3deg of camber, so i dont know where you pulled that from as i fail your whole checklist.

[4DGS]

What I am saying, is that I unmount my own tires and it's a bitch to do. If someone brought me 225/35 FKs on a 10 (like mine were) I'd charge them twice or tell them to go somewhere else.

I cut them off because they don't have any stretch like every other tire I have mounted and unmounted.

I also had about a 7" bubble on the inside of the sidewall after about 10k

I will never stretch Falkens again... I actually won't buy Falkens again in general.