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Yesterday was just too beautiful of a day not to do something when had a few minutes. Over the last week or so I've had some parts come in to fix up the truck a bit. Im planning on starting on it Tuesday as we are off for Mardi Gras (beauty of Louisiana) and will have the majority of the day to work out in the beautiful weather.
Had about a share hour yesterday, and decided to use it to give the engine bay a quick wash, as it was DIRTY, and along with scope out the cluster fuck of the wiring on this truck. As you may have noticed before i had mentioned a battery drain issue. Ive yet to really look into it. However after washing the engine bay and taking a look into the wiring, its a god damn mess. Id be casing my tail for weeks trying to find the issue. So while I'm in there changing gaskets and such I'm going to go through all the wires and route them safely, get rid of unterminated wires (there are many) see why the the pass. headlight and blinker working, and just clean it up and make it presentable.
I just dont understand how someone can take something so dated and so simple and turn it into a clusterfuck of wiring like they did. All it needs is like 10 wires?!Just, jesus lol. It also was a blast having my little helper out there with me in his Cosy Coupe.
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Originally posted by 190Evan View PostSuper jealous of that truck
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The new carb came in today. Had a friend come by and we swapped it out right quick. Went together like butter. Hooked the battery up, double checked everything was hooked up correctly and cranked her over. She fired up the first crank. Let her warm up for a minute then took her around the block. Lord have mercy was that a trip. Needs a front and back glass ASAP. was hanging out the door just so i could see. Also didn't help that only one headlight was working (we finished after dark). Only issue we had with the install was the choke. The stock carb has a full manual choke. You manually out it out, and once the engine is warm you have to manually push it back in. On the new carb is has a fitting that uses heat from either a exhaust gas or coolant heat source to slowly "turn off" the choke, so there is no action by the user. See as my truck was a full manual there was no line ran for the heat source. So for now we just zipped the choke open till i get can get some copper tubing and make one.
After we got home we started checking things over and making a list of things that need to be addressed first.
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Originally posted by 190Evan View PostIf you have a meter and an inductive amp clamp you can monitor Parasitic Amperage once the car is turned off. If the blinker stalk is the culprit you will see about .5 to 2 amps being drained and when you remove power from the stalk it should go away, if it doesn't go away it's not your problem. If possible find a wiring diagram and determine which fuse controls the blinker stalk function and make sure you know what other components that fuse protects so if the problem goes away you know what the possible components could be.
Originally posted by nsogiba View PostGoddamn you take on a lot of projects. How far is the Mustang from being done?
As for the truck its damn near driveable. Had a new carb come in today that im going to install tonight and new rad is on the way which should be here tomorrow and long as i figure out this battery drain issue she will be road worthy for crusin around and whatnot.
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Goddamn you take on a lot of projects. How far is the Mustang from being done?
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If you have a meter and an inductive amp clamp you can monitor Parasitic Amperage once the car is turned off. If the blinker stalk is the culprit you will see about .5 to 2 amps being drained and when you remove power from the stalk it should go away, if it doesn't go away it's not your problem. If possible find a wiring diagram and determine which fuse controls the blinker stalk function and make sure you know what other components that fuse protects so if the problem goes away you know what the possible components could be.
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Originally posted by 190Evan View PostIt could be shorted, test that overnight and let me know the results
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It could be shorted, test that overnight and let me know the results
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Originally posted by 190Evan View PostPeople make electrical seem like it's the devil which is dumb. Electronics are the best thing that ever happened to cars efficiency wise and efficiency makes power. Basically parasitic draw is a small amount of amperage that is being used by a component in the car after the car is shut down and the alternator isn't able to replenish the battery. Something as small as two amps leaking after shut down will kill a battery and nowadays that is caused by a dome lamp, door lamp, trunk lights or things like that being being stuck on. SUPER simple fix the only part that takes effort is finding what is staying on. I would tell you the parasitic draw procedure I learned but it won't really apply for that old of a truck. Do you have a multi meter and are you good at using it?
Only way to test that theory would be to leave the battery hooked up over night with the blinker for sure off and see if it cranks over. Unless you have a better suggestion.
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If you have a clamp on amp meter just clamp it over the positive wire and then start unplugging connectors.
My best guess is the Alternator diodes. If you wanted to, just unplug all the alternator wiring, tape the positive wire and leave it overnight. Chances are it will start. Not too much to go wrong electrically.
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People make electrical seem like it's the devil which is dumb. Electronics are the best thing that ever happened to cars efficiency wise and efficiency makes power. Basically parasitic draw is a small amount of amperage that is being used by a component in the car after the car is shut down and the alternator isn't able to replenish the battery. Something as small as two amps leaking after shut down will kill a battery and nowadays that is caused by a dome lamp, door lamp, trunk lights or things like that being being stuck on. SUPER simple fix the only part that takes effort is finding what is staying on. I would tell you the parasitic draw procedure I learned but it won't really apply for that old of a truck. Do you have a multi meter and are you good at using it?
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Originally posted by Red_Arrowheads View PostIf that's the case, then you could stuff in a modified 12 valve with a 47RE and be done. Towing and reliability for years to come. It would keep up with the Forge (Ford/Dodge) theme too.
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Originally posted by laextreme5 View PostAs for the 6'er im heavily looking into it. ideally id like power in the 500-600 range. Plenty to pull with and have a little fun on the street. Only possible issue would be adapting a somewhat modern auto (4l60e or the like) to it. If i did turbo the 6 id be converted to efi and modern auto, for reliabilities sake. This trucks main purpose will be to tow the mustang to long distance away events. Reliability is key..
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