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  • Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Post
    Yeah, the M103 is a very solid motor, and the rest of the car is a tank. There are a lot of things on the motor that can make sketchy noises - the smog pump is a common culprit as well on the gassers. You're lucky as well in that if you're ever going to find a W124 in a junkyard, it's a 99% chance it's got an M103. Also, if the car has sat for a while, check the flex discs on the trans and diff. They rot out and get loose, and if they let loose when the car is in motion, it's ugggggly.

    IN OTHER NEWS:

    MY AIR RIDE BRACKETS ARE DONE!

    I'm off to the welding shop to pick them up right now! HOLY FUCK! THIS IS HAPPENING!
    I noticed its louder then most of the motors I worked on, which were mostly Hondas. A different ball game so im going to have to get used to it when I start looking at the whole thing inside out. Hopefully no surprises.
    Thanks for the input bro greatly appreciated.
    Btw stoked to see your benz setup and dropped


    1990 Honda Civic Wagon - SOLD
    1997 BMW 318i Vert
    1992 Mercedes Benz 300e - SOLD
    1970 Mercedes Benz 250
    1976 Volvo 242DL

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    • Ladies and gentlemen, after a half-day's work on the cold wet driveway, I have a single corner on air. It's not much, but the bag plates required a lot of trimming, which took time. It turns out that grinding 1/4" wall A500 structural steel is kind of a pain in the ass. Who'da thunk it?

      My day went like this: unbolt spring arm, fit air bag to suspension, bolt up spring arm, cycle suspension, unbolt spring arm, remove air bag, remove brackets, trim brackets, attach brackets, fit air bag to suspension, bolt up spring arm, cycle suspension... repeat until exhausted.

      Something (probably the stupid little bumpstop on the shock) is keeping the amount of drop limited to 2.5", which is just totally unacceptable, but it's a damn fine start, if I do say so myself. Here, have a short stupid video:

      [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eMMZR0mqW4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eMMZR0mqW4[/ame]

      I've got leaks galore, a pressure switch to replace, three more corners to do, and a lot of fucking around with the shocks ahead of me, but the end is in sight...

      EDIT: Also, just as I speak, my replacement pressure switch arrived from AccuAir, just in time for Generic Non-Religious December Holiday! Thank you AccuAir!
      Last edited by Oh Damn, it's Sam; 12-24-2013, 08:17 PM.



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      • Yeah been there when I was bagging my 115 triming, bolting, remove and repeat. Still gotta sort out the rear shocks. I'm hoping the leak situation is settled as I had the same problems. The hoses need to be pretty much spot on, cut straight with no loose ends on the edges, and loctite 565 + thread tape on the threads. Anything less and it will leak, air doesn't forgive
        Good job can't wait to see it done
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        https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8l...7WzTiNj8Xy6C4A

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        • awesome its starting to come together! Keep up the good work

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          • Thanks for the encouragement and commiseration, guys!

            I got the left rear done this morning, and it went way faster. I removed the rubber bumpstop on the shock and it appears it was the limiting factor, as I had suspected. I managed to eke out another 1.5" of drop with the bumpstop removed, for a total of 4" of drop aired out. I don't think I will be able to get much lower without major and irreversible surgery to the rear suspension.

            Here's where I was at yesterday:


            and today:


            and a shitty overlay of an 18" wheel diameter:


            Apologies for the filthy horrible car.

            I think I'll wind up setting it up so that the fender just lays on the wheel rim when aired out. I won't be quite as low as some of the other W124s on air, but it's a look I like a lot. Gonna start fighting leaks here in a minute, wish me luck



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            • looks good, cant wait to see this thing finished.

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              • stance-tastic!



                I love the detail you put into your posts. on to the fronts now! go! get along little doggy

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                • damn I like that!


                  1990 Honda Civic Wagon - SOLD
                  1997 BMW 318i Vert
                  1992 Mercedes Benz 300e - SOLD
                  1970 Mercedes Benz 250
                  1976 Volvo 242DL

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                  • Originally posted by Junya View Post
                    stance-tastic!



                    I love the detail you put into your posts. on to the fronts now! go! get along little doggy
                    Originally posted by Dano View Post
                    damn I like that!
                    Thank you thank you!

                    Originally posted by skiierman View Post
                    looks good, cant wait to see this thing finished.
                    I don't know if you caught it on the last page, but I wound up going to Gary at Cycle Metrics for the welding. Many thanks for the tip - I owe 'ya a beer or something!

                    Today:

                    As mentioned above, my replacement pressure sensor arrived from AccuAir on Christmas Eve, and I got around to installing it today. If you don't remember from a few pages back, my air manifold originally looked like this:



                    You'll notice that all the accessories on the manifold point down, which AccuAir theorizes allowed what little water vapor the water trap missed to collect in the pressure sensor, ruining it as soon as the temperature dropped below freezing. I drained the water trap, and it was FULL, even with as little as I have run my system, so I have no doubts that enough water got into the sensor to eff it up. It is, after all, ever so slightly humid here in the winter.

                    At AccuAir's recommendation, while installing the replacement sensor, I reoriented the manifold thusly:



                    As an aside, the pressure sensor from AccuAir is actually a very clever piece of kit, and diagnosing it as failed proved to be quite easy with help from their tech support department. It appears to work as a 5V potentiometer, with input voltage on the red wire, ground on black, and signal on green. The rep from AccuAir had me check the sensor by measuring voltage on the red wire first to be sure the control unit was sending power, then by checking voltage on the green against ground. On a properly functioning sensor, the green wire should read 0.5VDC against ground at 0 PSI, with voltage increasing with air pressure. Mine was reading 4.3VDC at 0 PSI, indicating it had jammed up with the system registering acceptable pressure, and thus the compressor was not kicking on.

                    In my messing around with the system today, I do believe also that the AccuAir e-Level controller has a failsafe installed that shuts off the compressor after a certain amount of time, whether desired pressure has been reached or not. I accidentally left the auxiliary butterfly valve slightly open while running, and the compressor turned itself off after a few minutes of running, in spite of having only reached 30 PSI or so, thanks to the leak. I don't know whether the system waits for a while and then tries again, or whether it requires an ignition cycle to "reset." Anyway, kind of a nice feature for those of you who have compressors with less than 100% duty cycle.

                    Today I also ventured out onto the open road for the first time with the rear on air. Let me tell you, I don't think I've ever been so nervous in my life. You never notice how many sketchy noises your car makes until you do something stupid like put it on air . Some impressions:

                    1. The brackets appear to fit nicely, and I heard zero noise that could be attributed to them on my drive.
                    2. The progressiveness of the air bags is noticeable compared to coil springs, but it is not unpleasant in my opinion.
                    3. I appear to have managed not to completely ruin the nice ride of this car. I hit a few speed bumps at 25-30 MPH, and the car floated as nice as it ever does.
                    4. My stock shocks are a decent length for what I'm doing here, but under-damped. The car has always been slightly bouncy (it is kind of a big boat, after all), but it's a little more bouncy now than I would like, which I attribute to the stiffer and more progressive bags.
                    5. My lower bag brackets might be a tad low, as I can hear something that sounds like it might be rubbing when aired down. I shall investigate further.
                    6. I suspect my height sensor and air line are going to have to move to fit the MAEs back on.
                    7. The passenger side responds to control input slightly faster than the driver's. I might have to invest in some more flow controls to get everybody even.
                    8. It takes considerably more pressure in the bags than I suspected to bring the car to ride height. My stupid little model I dreamt up is obviously rather simplistic.
                    9. I am going to have a VERY hard time not fucking with the ride height at stoplights

                    I didn't get the car above 45 or so just out of sheer abject terror, but I took it over some bumpy roads and was very pleased. If you didn't know it was on air, I don't think you'd be able to tell, at least until you found the control switch .

                    Very pleased so far. Very pleased indeed.

                    EDIT: Oh yeah, and if you use soapy water for leak detection, don't be alarmed when you fire up your compressor and what appears to be smoke starts rising off the leader hose. It's just steam from water collected in the steel mesh
                    Last edited by Oh Damn, it's Sam; 12-27-2013, 04:01 PM.



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                    • Nice! When do cool wheels come out? Ha
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                      • Ha! I have to roll stockies for a while, at least until I have all four corners on air. The e-Level system needs to do a calibration test with everything installed where it runs through the height range on all four corners before anything functions correctly. With the offset and width on the MAEs, they will most definitely run into the fenders when aired out, so I've got to keep it on the sad little 15s until at least the calibration is completed. Then it will be cool wheel time



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                        • Throw the 18's on and air it out! and how can you not share photos of this beautiful 124 fully bagged? must see pictures, but car looks on que so far man!

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                          • Originally posted by Oh Damn, it's Sam View Post
                            I don't know if you caught it on the last page, but I wound up going to Gary at Cycle Metrics for the welding. Many thanks for the tip - I owe 'ya a beer or something!
                            Awesome! Its a great little shop. When you're finished, you should take it to a red door meet sometime.

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                            • PREPARE YOURSELF... FOR THE LAMEST UPDATE EVER!

                              Originally posted by Kinghorn View Post
                              and how can you not share photos of this beautiful 124 fully bagged?
                              That's cause... um... it's not done yet. sorry...

                              I have a boatload of lame excuses, but it basically boils down to classes kicking my ass. I am officially sick of grad school. I did get to spend all day yesterday wrenching on the rear suspension, and it is DONE back there.

                              I know I said that before, but I have a totally good excuse. See, the way the trunk is laid out, there's not really a great place to run air lines and sensor wiring into the wheel well. Plus, these Mercs don't have rear fender liners to hide tubes and such, which makes it all the more a PITA. Originally, I ran the rear lines into the cabin and then through a hole in the front of the wheel well, right about midway down the back of the seat. This worked fantastically with the stock wheels on the rear. But then I tested the MAEs.

                              Uh oh. Rubbing extraordinaire. I actually had to drive around lifted in the rear for a day or two until I could look at it, and let me tell you, 2" of lift in the rear on stock suspension in the front upsets the car's handling something FIERCE.

                              I had a rethink, and found two lovely drain plugs on either side of the "frame" rail in the trunk, where the trunk dips down into these goofy little pockets. Turns out it's perfect, everything's nicely-protected, and no rubbing!

                              k. MAEs back on, air it out, and... SHABLAM:



                              That puts the lowest part of the rocker panel about 3" above the ground, give or take, with the lowest subframe member I could measure about 2". I don't know if that counts as low enough, but it certainly seems low to me. If my maths are correct, that's a 4" drop.

                              Today I have a brake job to do on a little Mitsubishi, and then it's time to start fighting with the front suspension.

                              Originally posted by skiierman View Post
                              Awesome! Its a great little shop. When you're finished, you should take it to a red door meet sometime.
                              You know, Dano was talking about the RDM meets earlier in the thread, and I'm thinking about it. Seems like it's pretty chilled-out, which is my kind of scene.

                              ALRIGHT EVERYONE, sorry for the lame update, I'mma get back to work right-a now!
                              Last edited by Oh Damn, it's Sam; 06-10-2014, 09:19 AM.



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                              • That looks so good, love it tucks with the low in the back can't wait to see this fully dumped and fitted. Gives me motivation to start my w124

                                Btw my buddy got a 94 e420 benz same exact color like yours, the only difference its a V8 lol. Huge motor, gas mileage will be amazing haha. But anyway he might stance his and ill get to mine eventually and when you get yours we should roll together to RDM. We could make a w124 benz mob.


                                1990 Honda Civic Wagon - SOLD
                                1997 BMW 318i Vert
                                1992 Mercedes Benz 300e - SOLD
                                1970 Mercedes Benz 250
                                1976 Volvo 242DL

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