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  • Keith602
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    Originally posted by Iamtheonlyreal1 View Post


    Looks awesome in the snow. Love this car. Im going to try what you said about taping off the trim around the rear windows and see how that looks. Ive always felt the same thing. Easy enough to do since my car is black.

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  • Iamtheonlyreal1
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    Originally posted by Sjefke View Post
    Hey,

    Can I just say what a car! I am doing engine work right now so the pictures really help for my own 122 (1969)!
    I have a question about a wheel issue. I want to put 17'' Dodge Caliber wheels on my car. The wheels are 6,5J and have ET of 39.

    My thought is to move the centre to an ET of about 25 and put maybe 195 tyres on them. But I can't find anyone who has experience with this in The Netherlands, so that's why I wanted to ask here!

    Hope you can help!

    KR,

    Thomas
    I can offer you a bit of an easier solution to try, and then if you like it, you can send the wheels out.. You can use spacers to set all of it up initially, but I am not talking about the spacers that require you to change the length of your wheel studs, because those are not safe at all.. If you can figure just how far out you want your wheels to sit, you can by some spacer blocks on Ebay that actually bolt to your oem wheel studs, and then space the wheel out where you want it with additional and safe mounting studs for your new position.. These also open up a whole other wheel possibility because you can now have a 5x4.5 pattern to fit your car, and then have the spacer wheels studs an alternate wheel pattern for the desired wheel you would like to run, so it will really give you endless possibilities of wheel size and offset due to being able to adjust your spacing and bolt pattern accordingly.

    Here is an Ebay link to what I am talking about, and I have used these setups on other cars, so I do know they work great because they keep everything centered and do not overload your wheel studs at all. If you moved the center of your wheel out, you would tend to loose more exterior wheel lip, and I personally think that the dishing of the wheels looks best.. One thing that always bothers me about these classic cars is how the wheels are sunken into the body work, because it gives a look of incompleteness with all the body overhang, so I like my wheels to fill out the wheel wells as much as they can when it comes to mounting depth.

    Last edited by Iamtheonlyreal1; 12-10-2013, 10:18 AM.

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  • Sjefke
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    Hey,

    Can I just say what a car! I am doing engine work right now so the pictures really help for my own 122 (1969)!
    I have a question about a wheel issue. I want to put 17'' Dodge Caliber wheels on my car. The wheels are 6,5J and have ET of 39.

    My thought is to move the centre to an ET of about 25 and put maybe 195 tyres on them. But I can't find anyone who has experience with this in The Netherlands, so that's why I wanted to ask here!

    Hope you can help!

    KR,

    Thomas
    Last edited by Sjefke; 12-10-2013, 08:24 AM.

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  • Iamtheonlyreal1
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    Here are some more pictures of some of the daily use of Volvo X, and I must say that I am tired of the ice we have had over the last week, eventhough the car looks right at home in it.. LOL I have had a lot of guys ask me how I can drive the car in weather conditions like this, but they do not understand that this car was built to be a daily driver, and that is no matter the weather condition.. I am finding that the car is harder to keep clean than I thought this color would be, but it really isn't anything that several car wash visits a week wont take care of.. LOL







    Last edited by Iamtheonlyreal1; 12-10-2013, 01:24 AM.

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  • Iamtheonlyreal1
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    During this track session we are doing this 2.5 mile course at 2min 13-15sec pretty consistently and at 135-140mph on the longer straight sections, and that was basically lugging the car around a bit in 3rd gear most of the time rather than pushing the rev's of 2nd gear.. If you watch the video's a bit, you will find that the car is rarely near the 6800 rev limiter, and not heavy throttled at all off the turns because the car would break loose in 3rd due to the power. I will have to check with Wilwood to see if they have a bit more capable brake pads, because it seemed that we were quickly overrunning the brakes coming off the long stretches, so we did lose some more overall max speed potential due to having to keep the speed down for the brakes not to be overrun. My driver is thinking that we can get the car down to about a 2:05 minute track time with a few setting changes and a better front sway bar, and that will be on street tires also, so times can get even better if I were to tune the car for strictly track use.
    Last edited by Iamtheonlyreal1; 11-17-2013, 06:10 PM.

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  • Thom
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    Originally posted by Iamtheonlyreal1 View Post
    Looks like you were spot on.. LOL
    LOL! Yea Drag racing is a bit eh. Even my car with all of 100kw was nothing untill i pulled 3rd. axle tramp will also cause them to slip alot. More practice and tuning will iron that out a bit if that was your main focus. Even just seat time would help :P

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  • Iamtheonlyreal1
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    Here are a few video's of Volvo X on a 2.5 mile road course, and I will have to work on the camera positions just a bit more the next time.. For the first initial run on Daily Driver capable settings the car did absolutely great, and with a bit more camber and a sway bar that is about 30 percent larger in diameter than the IPD bar I have on there now, the car should do much better.

    The preliminary idea for setup on the next session is to stiffen the front spring setting just a hair and see about getting more of a performance sway bar than is offered for these cars, along with a more performance/track alignment. Keep in mind that I have this car setup for daily driver also, and the car was driven over an hour each way to get to the track and back, so this is more of a neutral setting at this time. We can still play with the coil over Dampening and Rebound settings a bit more on the next session, but I wanted to get some hard runs for our base setting, and then see what we can do to adjust it to a more track friendly setting later.

    For the people that wondered about my intake system using the cowl vent was going to have a negative air pressure issue at high speeds, I think the wiper arms tell the tale.. I guess the wipers for these cars were not made for this type of activity.. LOL

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuCJNRIn0oQ"]Volvo X track day1 - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJxdL2WeDNY"]Volvo X Track Day Interior mounted camera. - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R1hKM57OzQ"]Volvo X's first track day GoPro exterior view. - YouTube[/ame]











    Last edited by Iamtheonlyreal1; 11-16-2013, 01:51 AM.

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  • scogre
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    Regardless of how did on the track it looks beautiful in real life. I am so jealous.

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  • Iamtheonlyreal1
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    Originally posted by Thom View Post
    Man if you can crack a 13 for your first outing in this then id be happy with that aye. Your probably pulling 4th gear at some point aswell. So Ill guess 130mph? Im keen to see how you go.
    Looks like you were spot on.. LOL



    I took the car to the drag strip over the weekend, and I am very disappointed in the performance of the tires on the track. I am running a B.F. Goodrich G-force performance tire, and I thought it would be one of the better street tires to run due to being used on a lot of autocross cars, but not in this case at all.. LOL Track conditions were not the best either, so I had to start the car off in 2nd gear and slip the clutch while trying maintain traction, and I basically broke the tires loose all the way down the track to about the last 75 yards of the 1/4 mile. I was running a horrible 60ft time and 1/8 mile, but some how still did 110mph at a horrible 13.7sec in the 1/4 consistently at this track. Even though it was like driving on ice the whole way, the car stayed straight and stable the whole time, and there wasn't any wrangling the car to go straight at all. I will say the McCloud Clutch held up very well, and I got that clutch so hot that it actually had heated up the Dot4 fluid enough to expand and tighten up my clutch pedal to where I had absolutely now slack at the top.. LOL

    I took the car to another track/show the next day, and the track was in a much better condition, but they only run an 1/8 mile there. The tires still didn't work there, so I still had to continue starting in 2nd gear and slipping the clutch, and was running a consistent 8.3 sec at 90-92 mph. These tires work great on real pavement, and I was a bit surprised with the performance on the drag strip, but I absolutely didn't have any of the launch I am getting on the public streets.

    Here is a video below, and I hope it demonstrates some of what I am talking about with the wheel spin and driving on ice, and you can really see that in the 2nd frame of the 1st video before staging, because the two times I tapped the throttle with No Brake, the tires broke loose and I hit the rev limiter instantly.. Before anyone starts talking about too much horsepower is the issue here, I can honestly tell you that isn't the case on the regular streets, so I will have to do a bit more tire research for drag racing. I was really not wanting to get a set of performance slicks, because I wanted to do all my testing and setup with street tires for comparison reasons, but I suppose new car manufactures have perfect street conditions and private tracks.. I will say that the 2nd day on a better track, I was kicking the hell out of the new V8 Camaro's/Mustangs on a level playing field, because they were breaking loose as bad as my car was.. LOL

    I do apologize for the video, because it seems the person I let have the camera didn't know the best way to do it.. LOL I did about 12 runs that night, and this was all I was able to salvage out of the footage.. This was just an initial trial, and the better coverage will be done during the day for better quality


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9QUVFMOt4"]Tire Slipping Radial Tires - YouTube[/ame]

    This is the car taking off on the public highway, and you can see that I don't have the slipping problem I had on the strip, and all I had to do here is manage the throttle to get better results.



    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE7XEqnS-tA"]Swedish Ops (Volvo X) 1967 Volvo 122 Amazon 600+ horsepower 6.2. LS3 V8 Conversion - YouTube[/ame]
    Last edited by Iamtheonlyreal1; 11-04-2013, 09:53 AM.

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  • scogre
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    This build is so gorgeous. Where did you get that awesome rings for the gauge cluster?

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  • Thom
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    Man if you can crack a 13 for your first outing in this then id be happy with that aye. Your probably pulling 4th gear at some point aswell. So Ill guess 130mph? Im keen to see how you go.

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  • Iamtheonlyreal1
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    Here are some details on the Gearing of this car, and I am taking to a Test and Tune day at a local drag strip to get some 1/4 mile comparison times, so does anyone have any guess on what the outcome will be? I am running it on Street Tires (B.F. Goodrich G-Force 265/35/18's), and they seem to grip very well, but I will not have no where near the grip a set of slicks would have. I am wanting a comparison to the modern production cars so people can get a better idea of what the numbers mean, so I wanted to keep street tires instead of slicks for that reason.

    I have some local drag guys that say that I will be lucky to break a 12.5 sec 1/4 mile, and that is due to the Power/Weight Ratio, Standard Transmission Option (Clutching Skills), and tire option and width, but a few of them said it would more than likely be at a higher top speed than the typical 12.5 sec time, because I will be able to make up some ground for top speed after the grip kicks in. This all speculation for sure, and I wonder if anyone might have some guesses as to what they think the time and speed will be.. I will say that I have honestly never been on a 1/4 mile track, so that will have a definite factor in the time, so you might take that into consideration.. I have done all the typical street hot rodding over the years, but I am sure there are some definite differences..

    Less than 2600lbs
    Engine RPM 6800
    Axle Ratio 3.50
    Tire Height 25.3in

    1st Gear 2.87 MPH 50.95
    2nd Gear 1.89 MPH 77.37
    3rd Gear 1.28 MPH 114.25
    4th Gear 1.00 MPH 146.23
    5th Gear .82 MPH 178.33
    Last edited by Iamtheonlyreal1; 10-31-2013, 05:16 PM.

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  • MacPiper
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    Originally posted by Iamtheonlyreal1 View Post
    I did a quick edit on the GoPro video's with the GoPro editor program, so here it is. I will have some 1/4 mile track video, along with the 2.5 mile road course video's coming soon, bu I wanted to practice up a bit.. LOL

    Swedish Ops (Volvo X) 1967 Volvo 122 Amazon 600+ horsepower 6.2. LS3 V8 Conversion - YouTube
    Great video Robert. Good to see her up and running.

    What I would really like to see now is my refund. Any chance you could send that through?

    Neil

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  • Iamtheonlyreal1
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    Originally posted by NickWeaver View Post
    What is the Transformer like car in the last pick because i've been looking for an oddball project.
    That is a 1982 Bremen Sebring, and it is currently on Ebay so I don't have to store it over the winter.. Here is a link below, and it should answer most of you questions about what the hell it is.. LOL

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  • NickWeaver
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    What is the Transformer like car in the last pick because i've been looking for an oddball project.

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