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  • Ever had a car fall on you while working?? Lifting your lowered car a pain in the?

    Either ON you or just fall while you had it up? Regrettably I have, twice.

    I'm a senior industrial design student and I'm starting my senior thesis project. The problem I am looking at is lifting and safety of working on a (lowered) car. So I need some feedback from you guys for research!

    How do you raise your car when you are working on it? What process and tools do you use?
    What safety devices/checks do you use? Tell me the little things too, personal-protective-equipment, lights, padding, mirrors, etc etc
    What are some concerns you have while working on your car?
    All of us lowered guys know it is often a major pain getting our cars up, what are some issues you run into? How do/have you attempted to solve those issues?
    In a perfect world, how could this process of lifting your car to work on it be made easier/safer for YOU? What tools/systems/or modifications of tools do YOU wish existed?



    STORY feel free to skip
    Here are my two car falling stories real quick. The first time, my brother was selling his style m66 wheels off his e39. We met with the buyer in a parking lot and were going to just swap all four wheels over from and to both cars. I started with my brothers car, jacked it up using the factory elbow jack and removed the rear wheel. To speed up the process I then jacked it up further to get the whole side off the ground so I could get the front wheel off too. My mistake was that I forgot to put in the wheel chock, so the car rolled forward a bit and knocked the jack over sideways. BOOM down on the rotor my brothers e39 came crashing. FCCK I thought! Luckily I was only next to it and not underneath it. I was able to get the car back up and properly in place. Luckily no damage was caused.

    My next incident was this past summer. I was working on changing the front brakes on my dad's 3/4 ton Dodge Cummins pick-em-up. My dads large metal shop was packed at the moment and I couldn't pull the truck in, so I did the job out on the grass. I used two large bottle jacks with a piece of plywood underneath as a base to jack the truck up. I got the front wheels off and the brakes already on one side. My dad then instructs me that I should put the truck on jack stands. So I proceed to position the first jackstand under the truck where it should go, NOT on the plywood base. I then proceed to use the freaking 6 inch handle for the bottle jack to release pressure on it to lower the truck down onto the jack stand. All is well,,, so it seemed. As I'm nearly half bodied underneath the truck, pulling the bottle jack out from under it; in a split fraction of a second there is a noise and a brief second of my life that never registered in my mind. I look over and I am now standing 20 feet away from the truck that is now sitting on its chasis in the grass. Lucky enough for me I am able bodied and have the agility and reflexes of a ninja, otherwise there is no question about it, I would be without a right arm today. I brush off my arm as it was actually scratched by the truck's metal step sideskirt coming down (not ninja enough). My mom and dad (outside at the time) freakout and thank god that I'm not dead while I realize, shit! the cinder block that I had put underneath to set the brake caliper on, is being sat on by the oil pan that is now impaled by it. We borrow a low-profile jack from the neighbor down the road to get the truck up. And to our amazement that dam cummins oil pan is unharmed and leak free, just now with a baseball sized dent in it. With the truck now properly jacked up, the rest of the brake job went on. What had happened was one leg of the jackstand got pressed into the dirt more than the rest and so the weight toppled it over
    END STORY

  • #2
    Jacking up a lowered car is no different besides having to use a wood block or something to drive the car on to get the jack under the car. Once high enough just proceed to jacking from the correct jacking point. Always use jack stands. A lowered car isn't more unsafe or anything, just usually takes a little more effort to get the jack under the car.

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    • #3
      ^^ this.
      It's not any different than a normal car except getting the jack under is harder. Also since our suspensions are stiffer and have less travel you often end up with only two wheels on the ground.
      Always chock wheels, jack from a hard level surface, use a real quality floor jack, factory jacks are for emergancies not normal use.
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      • #4
        Jacking up a car while it's on the grass.. Uhmmm

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Rubens View Post
          Jacking up a car while it's on the grass.. Uhmmm
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          <Imagine a cool photo of a white 98 M3 sedan sitting low on staggered DS2's here>

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          • #6
            I will say putting a car on stands and setting it back down is my least favorite part of the wrenching experience.

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            • #7
              drive onto a block, then a higher block. place the jack under something structural wherever you need to lift the vehicle that won't allow it to slip off. I like subframes with exposed bolts. the bolts act as cleats and keep the car on the jack, and subframes are always bolted to thick sections of the unibody. I almost never use the factory jack points, as they seem to always be weak and bend with weight on them. after you get whatever end or corner of the car up and you plan on doing more than swapping a wheel (like getting under it or whatever) always place some big jack stands under the car. And always use two of them.

              That's it. No padding, no PPE, no hard hats. Just common sense. Also, I use a huge 4 ton floor jack, never flimsy shitty parts store jacks or factory scissor/widdow maker jacks.

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              • #8
                I'm the office manager at a Jaguar/Rover/Ferrari/Maserati/Lotus shop, so I just use hydraulic lifts because fuck manually jacking a car up.\
                <Imagine a cool photo of a white 98 M3 sedan sitting low on staggered DS2's here>

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pimpin325Ci View Post
                  The first time...factory elbow jack...whole side off the ground

                  My next incident...on the grass...plywood
                  ...

                  Pretty much do exactly what C-Hutch said. NEVER attempt to raise a car (yet alone a bigass diesel) on dirt or sand. I had to do a transaxle swap on dirt one time and I did the whole deal on wheel ramps ON TOP of plywood. I still wouldn't recommend if at all avoidable.
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                  • #10
                    for my e36 i use the standard windy jack to lift high enough to get a 3ton trolley jack underneath.
                    i want one of these next though:

                    or more than likely i will make my own
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                    • #11
                      I am a great believer in self preservation and safety is paramount, if a car fall off a jack or stand it's always down to plane and simple stupidness, nothing more nothing less.
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                      • #12
                        I use my hoist, typically takes about 20 minutes to set up. 2 2x4's under each tire and then jack it up from there, swing the hoist arms under and voila.

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                        • #13
                          What I gathered from this is you should not be jacking up any car because you will most likely kill youself.
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                          • #14
                            Find out if your school has a class in common sense. It will save your life.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by HooWybrow View Post
                              I use my hoist, typically takes about 20 minutes to set up. 2 2x4's under each tire and then jack it up from there, swing the hoist arms under and voila.
                              You should see the stack of shit I need to drive on to get a lift arm under my car.


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