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    Greeting Stanceworks,
    Iíve been a long time lurker, but Iíve decided to make a build thread to half motivate myself to keep working on my car, and half because Iíve been working hard for over 2 months- and I want to get some feedback on what Iíve done so far.

    First off, this is how my car used to look:












    Itís a 2002 Subaru WRX, on air suspension, and a ton of little things. Iím a big fan of wheel fitment, and wheels. Itís my little niche in the car community.

    Iím also a big fan of VIP cars, and after seeing INSANE cars over in Japan that make no sense at all, but are cool as hell, I decided I needed that ridiculousness in my life. Which brings us to the current road my cars going down, my own handmade widebody/radius.

    First I had to formulate a plan. Iím absolutely a novice at this, Iíve never done anything like it. I know if youíre super cool, and legit, you do a 100% metal widebody. Problem is I canít weld and thatís hard as fuck. SO, I decided to do what I could and use a metal frame, or ďskeletonĒ, to shape and add rigidity to the fender, and then smooth it up with fiberglass and body filler. Also, I wanted my fenders to have a smooth fender edge, as itís extremely hard to replicate a manufactured look by hand. Luckily, I have a lot of cunning friends that are big on junkyards, and I realized that MK4 Jettas are plentiful around the junkyards of South Carolina. SO, I decided to make my handmade widebody out of MK4 Jetta fenders.

    I started by cutting them into strips,


    Drilling them onto the car, just to shape them up and make see how they would fit.






    Then I got a good buddy of mine to tack weld the fenders to the car.


    Then added some fiberglass,


    And a little filler,





    LOTS OF SANDING. SOOOO MUCH SANDING.

    In the meantime, Test fitted my buddys VS-XX's, 19x10.5, after adapters -22, and they fit! Fenders weren't rolled either, so that gives me great hope for the specs on the wheels I bought.


    And the fronts were pretty much done.

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    Now, onto the rears.
    The rears were 3 times harder than the fronts, because I had to cut the door, the, and cut a lotttt out of quarter panel. Still not entirely sure how itís gonna work with the wheel inside, but I havenít gotten the wheels yet, so weíll work that out when we get there!
    I didnít take a whole lot of pictures of the rear when I started cutting it up, just because we did it all in one swoop, and it was a pain in the ass.

    After it was all mocked up,






    Again, didnít get any pics of them being welded on,
    After some fiberglass,




    And then some filler.









    LOTS AND LOTS OF SANDING.

    Then I got started on the bumpers.
    Even though I want to go with a more VIP style, I have this Chargespeed kit lying around, and even though itís fairly rare and worth money, I decided it would be a better idea to cut it up and make it worthless by widening it and putting it on my car!
    Japanese styling back in 2002 when this car came out was a littleÖugly, especially in regards to my front bumper. So I decided to shave some of the many vents that the bumper had.


    Still working on that, and will update when done.


    I thought I could just cut and extend the bumpers, but they wouldnít flex enough. SO I made a mold out the underside of the fender, and connected it to the bumper.




    After some fiberglass and filler, itís starting to look better.





    This is where itís at right now.
    I think the rear needs a little more shaping and work, but as a college student with a job, and a serious girlfriend, I work on it whenever I have time which is never.






    ANYWAY!
    Thatís my Subie right now! Iíll keep this thread updated as much as possible, because I have a feeling itíll help me stay motivated.
    Oh, also, sorry for the shitty cell phone pictures. I have a nice camera, I just never bring it to the shed with me.

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    This will be insanity.
    hELL YES. sUB'D
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    The first picture of the subie with the hacked up fenders made me cry...
    Then I read on...


    Subbed.
    It's like rock-crawling... in the streets...

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    wow, just wow. sub'd

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    ERMAHGERD. I just want to see it done. Sub'd for sure.

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    That is sweet! The only thing I would have changes is the outer lip of the fender doesn't sit completely perpendicular to the ground ( the flare goes out and then almost appears to back in) It might make cambered wheels look a bit funny.

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    Rep for cutting shit up without any welding. For what it's worth even with a $200 mig welder and a bit of practice you could've dine just as well.
    It's starting to take shape nicely. Do you have pics of the underside to show some of the bracing that will prevent cracking of the fender?
    Surprised how well the mk4 can be blended in to the subbie. Keep us updated


    "Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

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    holy. so this is what you've been up to. (i'm from WFC)

    very interested to see the end of this.



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    First off, thank you guys!
    Knowing people are subbed is just the kind of motivation I need to not lay on my ass and finish the car. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Jlyons617 View Post
    That is sweet! The only thing I would have changes is the outer lip of the fender doesn't sit completely perpendicular to the ground ( the flare goes out and then almost appears to back in) It might make cambered wheels look a bit funny.
    Yes, the fenders bowing back in was a side effect of taking the flat Jetta fenders, and curving them to meet the body of the car. I'm not really sure how it's going to look with the wheels, I'm just gonna cross that bridge when I get there.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeckniX View Post
    Rep for cutting shit up without any welding. For what it's worth even with a $200 mig welder and a bit of practice you could've dine just as well.
    It's starting to take shape nicely. Do you have pics of the underside to show some of the bracing that will prevent cracking of the fender?
    Surprised how well the mk4 can be blended in to the subbie. Keep us updated
    I have an old stick welder, and I think after this I'm definitely going to invest in one.
    And yeah, the fenders are definitely on there! They're super firm, but while I do worry about them cracking, I think they're strong enough. I'll grab some pics of the underside next time I'm over there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard_Gud. View Post
    holy. so this is what you've been up to. (i'm from WFC)

    very interested to see the end of this.
    Yeah man!
    WFC will always be home sweet home, but I wanna kinda post up over there once it's all said and done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawhat View Post
    First off, thank you guys!
    Knowing people are subbed is just the kind of motivation I need to not lay on my ass and finish the car. lol


    Yes, the fenders bowing back in was a side effect of taking the flat Jetta fenders, and curving them to meet the body of the car. I'm not really sure how it's going to look with the wheels, I'm just gonna cross that bridge when I get there.
    I'd be worried about cracking the filler or epoxy but I wonder if you could straighten them with a roller and a mild pull.

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    This is cool, but the rear door confuses me. How it will open. Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jlyons617 View Post
    I'd be worried about cracking the filler or epoxy but I wonder if you could straighten them with a roller and a mild pull.
    I am. haha
    I kinda started body work before rolling the fenders, and then realized how bad it could end up.
    I'll probably just try to roll them VERY slowly, or cut and hammer them, since they're already rigid.

    Quote Originally Posted by willis View Post
    This is cool, but the rear door confuses me. How it will open. Carry on.
    I see what you're saying. Idealy, and on pretty much all VIP cars I've seen with heavy bodywork, the door line in the rear looks something like this:


    The problem I was having is that I wanted to radius my fenders as well as widen them. The rear tucked on my previous setup, and I didn't want that.
    The problem that came from radiusing them was that the quarter panel between the rear door and the fender well on Subarus is very, very small:


    Because it was so small, when I radiused it, the fender line wouldn't have flowed properly without cutting out that piece all together. So now I have no quarter panel between my door and wheel well. I would have loved to make the door panel swoop all the way down like the picture of that F50, but being a novice, I decided it would be easier on me to just cut it in half.
    I also considered welding shut the rear doors all together, but then I figured maybeee I shouldn't do that. lol
    Regardless, the doors function fine, just waiting to see how they'll look with the new wheels.

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    You sir, are out of your mind. And it's fuckin awesome. Carry on!

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    I am so in for this!!!! Man this is Crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    First off, props for doing this all yourself.
    Secondly, this will be awesome.
    Third, subscribed!!
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    AHHHH! You beat me to my own plan... But I'm glad I have some reference now, I've looked at widebody kits for my bugeye and I've just never really liked them. But I've always liked what people do with their Audi's and MK4's. It looks so aggressive, and the fitment is always spot on. And with VIP style cars, fender flares dont always mix...

    This is mine,


    And Im on 17x9.5 right now. But I've been wanting to bag it, and go super wide. Wanting to do something different around here and stir things up. I may be hitting you up soon for some information!

    Please deliver.

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    that rear door line is hideous, and the "flares" dont flow with the car's body lines at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jlyons617 View Post
    That is sweet! The only thing I would have changes is the outer lip of the fender doesn't sit completely perpendicular to the ground ( the flare goes out and then almost appears to back in) It might make cambered wheels look a bit funny.
    Flares on my miata were the same way. It will just make the camber look less. WOn't look bad at all as long as he pokes.

    Quote Originally Posted by 02wrx801 View Post
    -You beat me to my own plan...
    - I've looked at widebody kits for my bugeye and I've just never really liked them.
    -I've always liked what people do with their Audi's and MK4's.
    -VIP style cars, fender flares dont always mix...

    This mine
    http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...33763343_n.jpg

    -Im on 17x9.5 right now.
    -I've been wanting to bag it, and go super wide.
    -Wanting to do something different around here and stir things up.
    -Please deliver.
    -___- diss your build fread?
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    I hope it ends up poking, that's the plan!
    I put two barrels together to test fit the rear of my car (because my lips aren't here yet) and it measured out to roughly a 18x14, and it just barely didn't fit.
    I'm not going nearly that wide, but I anticipate running huge ass spacers to get flush. Oh well!


    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent123 View Post
    that rear door line is hideous, and the "flares" dont flow with the car's body lines at all
    I definitely see what your saying.
    The door line leaves a lot to be desired, but that is definitely one of the things I'm still working on.
    I didn't necessarily mean for the fenders to flow either. Fenders that jut out very aggressively, and then work their way back into the body will make the car look really really wide, which is what I want.
    The front also looks a lot better than the rear imo, but I'm still working on the rear. If the door line looks awful when it's all said and done, I'll go back and redo it for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by 02wrx801 View Post
    AHHHH! You beat me to my own plan... But I'm glad I have some reference now, I've looked at widebody kits for my bugeye and I've just never really liked them. But I've always liked what people do with their Audi's and MK4's. It looks so aggressive, and the fitment is always spot on. And with VIP style cars, fender flares dont always mix...

    Please deliver.
    Definitely plan on delivering! I actually chose MK4 Jetta fenders because there were a lot of them, and the arch looks good on 18's, which is what I've decided on running. I might need to go up to 19's actually!

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    Hey Ryan... Get this done

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    :OOOOOOOOOOO I swoon over body work like this, DIY to an amazing extent. kudos, and carry on my friend

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    Damn I've always wondered how this subie was lowered. And also, wondered where in SC are you? Can't wait to see the finished product man

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    Wow... just wow

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    Damn that's phat, cool skills on the bodywork too!

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