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    Some of you may know about this, most probably don't since these forums are kind of a ghost town anymore.

    I had listed my old m3 for sale for what seemed like forever. Pic of that plus an explanation below.

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    There were a few reasons, and this will just sound like me complaining but here goes. SCCA which I run is a royal pain sometimes when it comes to rules. Especially for an E36 M3. If I had a 328I it would have been different which is sad and funny at the same time. To get my car competitive would have involved a lot of $$$$$ in a motor swap or motor work. Both of which really would have made enough power in the end unless I could have shed another 1,000lb off the car. I was up against 700+ hp mustangs but in the same class as me with my 250hp...which I am sure was a stretch. I went a little overboard on the car, pulled all wiring, full cage that didnt fit me well, and so on. The car was technically still street legal, but barely. It ended up blowing a head gasket before one sale, but I managed to find a father/son duo that knew exactly what they were buying and planned to rebuild the motor. It went to a very good home.

    So while endlessly browsing market place, thinking I should just get another E46 M3 which I couldn't find in the price I was willing to pay, or good condition I found something else. Here is the original listing. Went a few days later to check it out with my parents incase I decided I had to have it.

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    Well guess what, It came home with me. The previous owner did a buff before I got there, and supposedly ceramic coated it (don't believe that part but it was shiny as hell). First pic at night. I have to admit I love the hud. The car also has a full exhaust, tune, and other perfect starter bits like that. I will elaborate on those more after this post.

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    After I got it home to show the wife and take her to dinner, I had to see it with the top off. It conveniently stores in the rear and locks in place...kind of weird but smart.

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    When I saw the title I thought it was spam, lol.
    Car looks solid, are you planning on racing this one also, or will this be more of a street build?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yezzz View Post
    When I saw the title I thought it was spam, lol.
    Car looks solid, are you planning on racing this one also, or will this be more of a street build?
    As soon as I made the thread title and hit save, I regreted not putting more cuz It does seem like a spam post. I might just make a new one but lets see what happens. I will elaborate more on the build today.
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    So first thing I did was try and test fit the Apex 18x10s I saved from the BMW. I never mentioned the wheels plus the buyer didn't have the money to cover them anyway. I felt bad as he does plan to street drive the car, and I almost wish I would have kept the Enkei and all the slicks for the vette....but I really wasn't sure what I wanted to buy so I didn't think keeping them made sense. Now I regret that decision but oh well. If I went with wide fenders I could have made the wheels work. You can see below the front alone...granted no camber, poked a fair amount. Also ignore the car being sky high.

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    So I listed them for sale, took some time but they sold. I was honestly saving them originally in the hopes of finding an E46 since they would have fit perfectly. So I started to browse craigslist and I found a set of 18x9.5 and 18x10.5 Z06 reps that came off a camaro. Left right away and picked them up. This was maybe 1-2 days after buying the vette. They kind of suck, and are still just sitting in the garage since I don't plan on running them. I listed them for sale but no bites yet. I might just get some all seasons or something for next winter for them. They are fake splits, and the bolts are plastic. I pulled all the bolts and was going to mess with a light refinish but havent done anything yet. If they were all 10.5 I would be more inclined to keep them.

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    Also threw the car up on the lift to see the exhaust setup, and how weird this thing is underneath since its almost completely flat. The floor is made up of a sandwich of fiberglass/wood/alum. The car has long tube headers and small race cats. It pops and bangs very aggressive on decel which I love. It will sound good coming down the hills.

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    Genuinely impressed by how flat the floor is on this thing!
    Very interested to see this car on the ZO6 reps and sitting closer to the floor.

    I honestly also thought this was a spam thread and almost deleted it because of the title, but saw your username and figured it was good aha
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    I love the thread title haha, I say leave it.

    Cool to see a Vette build, a friend of mine has a C5Z that I got a chance to drive. They're so rowdy, I love it.

    I've heard finding C5 wheels is kind of a pain, don't they need really specific, weirdly high offsets to fit anything? Hope you find something cool soon, looking forward to seeing this come together!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SebastienPeek View Post
    Genuinely impressed by how flat the floor is on this thing!
    Very interested to see this car on the ZO6 reps and sitting closer to the floor.

    I honestly also thought this was a spam thread and almost deleted it because of the title, but saw your username and figured it was good aha
    I sent you a PM about that, maybe we can tweak it a little.

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    I love the thread title haha, I say leave it.

    Cool to see a Vette build, a friend of mine has a C5Z that I got a chance to drive. They're so rowdy, I love it.

    I've heard finding C5 wheels is kind of a pain, don't they need really specific, weirdly high offsets to fit anything? Hope you find something cool soon, looking forward to seeing this come together!
    Yeah C5 fitment is a rather hard thing. Someday I will probably go some form of a widebody, but fenders are very expensive and most don't fit well or look oem. Lets just say once I decide this car isn't a "street" car anymore, things will drastically change. The wheel issue is mainly the offsets land around 55-60 in a 10.5 or 11. There are options out there, but they are either very expensive or I just dont like the look.
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    Next up for me was to tackle the sky high ride height. Thankfully these cars are supposed to be very easy to adjust with the stock leaf spring bolts. Yup I said leaf spring bolts...(I know so strange in a performance car). The transverse leaf up front has a threaded bolt and that is how you adjust the height. Out back there is another bolt that goes through the spring and same very easy adjustment. I got the rear down....and then tried to tacked the front. Well the 10mm head stripped, and they were seized in the sleeve. So some searching from miss information (SCCA class rules) I ended up buying some low mile Z06 springs. Install is very easy actually, had them swapped over in about 1 hour. Tried to lower the front and same issue. Here is a picture of the arch difference. Lower ones are the Z06 springs.

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    The seller said the front bolts moved...yeah they wouldnt budge for me. The internet will tell you all different methods to get them loose, nothing worked. I welded a bolt to the stock bolts and got them out. One bushing came out...oh no it was the end of the world according to the internet. Well they are very wrong. Some cleaning and JB weld and back to good. The way the threaded bushing works it will never move again and I got the car lowered down.

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    Not too shabby with the stock wheels and a "proper height"

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    Even thought I bout a set of wheels, and they may have looked good, I really did not want to run staggered anymore. The stock wheels are 17s up front and 18s out back, and I wanted to run 18s all around. The Z06 fake splits are 18x9.5 and 18x10.5 but I still needed to get 2 different size tires, and I like to be able to do a 4 tire rotation. Most of the guys I race with run square on the hills/track so why not run that setup all the time. I started to look for 18x10.5 wheels that were a little different, even a set of stock Z06 rears would have made me happy. I finally made a decision on some replica wheels simple due to price and if I destroy one, its a cheap replacement. Enter some C7 Z06 wheels. 18x10.5 et 56 all around in a gunmetal color, other choice was chrome (NO) or black.

    Took them right over to my old tire shop (expensive but the best around), got some TPMS sensors since you cant disable it on my year (should have bought a 2001) and had some Accelera Sport 285/35 mounted up.

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    Waited a day and threw them on the car. I am still not really happy with the color, but they are much better than the stock polished wheels. I plan to get another set of some kind of reps and run some 315/30 slicks. This is mounted with no changes to the suspension other than the previous lowering.

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    Had to roll it outside to see them in the sun.

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    In for this! I love me some C5 action

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    New wheels aren't bad at all!


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    New wheels are good, it also looks like you can still come down a fair amount before the rubbing starts!
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    This is gonna be good. Keep going my dude.

    I'm glad to see the builds section isn't dead.
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    this is gonna be good. can't wait for more.

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    So to continue with my daily posts, or trying to keep this thing updated very regular till I get caught up lets see what I did next.

    Since this car is meant to handle, I figured why not throw some swaybars and shocks at it. Like I said before it had the C6 Z06 shocks installed to replace the failed stock adjustable ones. It rode great and I really had no complaints, but I figured I would start to look around and find something else. Well I found a good deal on some used Johnny O Connel shocks for a steal. They are $900 new and I paid $300 shipped. Figure I will try them out after finding a lot of good reviews online. I cant tell you yet if they were worth swapping out, but I was able to sell my Z06 shocks easily to recoup some of the cost. I didnt take any pics of them, but here is a stock photo of what they look like. Install again was stupid easy and the internet was wrong. I didnt take anything apart other than swaybars to get them in.

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    While installing the shocks I also did a swaybar upgrade. I never swapped them on a car before, I usually end up taking them out of all my volkswagens. I got a set on order with upgraded sway bar links and got to work. The front is 1-3/8" and rear is 1". I am not sure what stock was, but here are some comparisons. They are huge.

    Front bar vs stock

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    Rear Bar vs stock

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    Install was super easy. Front is 2 position adjustable, rear is 3 position. I forget where I set them up at to start, but its nothing crazy yet. Strano Parts was so easy to deal with and Sam really knows what he is talking about. All first hand experience which is nice. Here is a pic of the sway links, and the rear installed with the shocks.

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    I will be doing bushings soon, and a camber lock kit, but just trying to decide on which direction for each of those. There is a very big price gap on bushings that are available for the control arms. I also am trying to decide if ditching the springs and shocks for coilovers will really benifit me at this time, or wait a few years for that.
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    That's a good direction you are heading and very correct first mods. New wheels actually look good and fit very well IMO, even if you don't lower it any more.
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    Getting daily updates, what is this, 2012 again?!

    All the suspension goodness! Getting adjustable sway bars is a solid move too
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    The car had the "zip tie mod" for the airbox, yeah you just take off the cover and its supposed to help. I understand free mods, but I am not a hack and I cant stand shit like that on my cars anymore. Sure this would mimick alot of the filter options on the market, but it really does not get airflow where its mounted so I had to pull it off.

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    I searched around for a while, and honestly who would have thought picking an intake would be a hard choice. Once again, I should have bought a 2001 or newer but lesson learned there. I ended up ordering a Vararam intake which is a true cold air/ram air setup. They claim up to 40hp while moving and you will see why. It draws in air from the fog light ducts straight into the filter. A lot of people swear by them, and the price wasn't really much more than just a giant filter like most company's sell for these cars.

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    Threw it on right away. The fitment is very good, but its not a fun setup to install. Lots of things in the way on these cars, but overall it wasnt too bad.

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    These ram/air intakes blow my mind. It’s crazy how they can claim 40hp increase from just a simple piece of mounded plastic directing the air properly!

    I’m genuinely excited to see what comes next man, I know there’s a lot you can play with on these (even if it isn’t a pre-2001) but I’m curious how far you’re thinking you’re going to take it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SebastienPeek View Post
    These ram/air intakes blow my mind. It’s crazy how they can claim 40hp increase from just a simple piece of mounded plastic directing the air properly!

    I’m genuinely excited to see what comes next man, I know there’s a lot you can play with on these (even if it isn’t a pre-2001) but I’m curious how far you’re thinking you’re going to take it?
    I usually dont buy into power claims, but I think once your above a certain speed is when it really helps. I can tell you none of the other sets on the market pull air in from the outside. I really should see if there is any dyno charts showing anything on the setup. Tomorrows post will be more about the direction
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    Quote Originally Posted by hinrichs View Post
    I usually dont buy into power claims, but I think once your above a certain speed is when it really helps. I can tell you none of the other sets on the market pull air in from the outside. I really should see if there is any dyno charts showing anything on the setup. Tomorrows post will be more about the direction
    Yeah, I completely agree, power claims are literally just that, claims, when it comes to bolt ons.
    I shall look forward to tomorrow then!
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    Next up was some decisions on parts for the interior.

    The car came with a head unit already which was a nice touch. All I really "needed" to do was fix some wiring to my standards. I still have more to change on that but really didnt want to take the console apart again. Someone used home electrical wiring on the sub, so no pics of that. I did bypass some stuff on the unit tho so I can watch movies in the pits or while waiting around. The surround fits and looks like garbarge, but the oem looking one is $350 so I wont be ordering that anytime soon. I only really like the unit since there is a back up camera.

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    Next I called my favorite race shop to set up an appointment to go visit. StableEnergies in garfield NJ. I had to talk to them about a few things like my helmet, and they stock a good selection of seats and other goodies. I sat in a few for a while, and really tried hard to make up my mind on what I wanted for this car. I did grab a new belt that is more HANS compatible than my last schroth belt. The clubman now is all 2" belts and honestly so much more comfortable. I also picked up another steering wheel, same as the bmw, and a seat.

    First up was to install the steering wheel. What a royal PITA that was. The corvette wheels are either easy to get off, or very hard. Of course mine put up a fight. I bought a tool on amazon, which of course didnt work right but I got the wheel off. Basically you need a "J" style hook since GM didnt think to add threaded holes like most stock steering wheels. Also ordered another rogue engineering quick release since I have bought like 5 now, and always happy with them.

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    I skipped a lot of pictures here, cuz I wasnt going to make a thread originally, but here is the seat mounted. I have used so many different BMW floor mount adapters, and nothing comes close to the ease of install of the AMT Motorsports mount I picked for this car. Mark really designs quality parts and while they are very expensive, it worked perfectly. I also made my own lap belt plate which I will get pics of later on when the seat comes out again. I went a little extra on this OMP seat, but I wanted the extra saftey of the head support.

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    Since I am sure someone might ask, no the seat really isn't a pain to drive around in. The back up camera helps a lot (when it works), and the "wings" really don't block that much when your driving around town. Its annoying to see a passenger more than anything. I will be ordering a WRC-R seat for the passenger side eventually, just waiting since I really don't need it at all. If I start to do more autocross sessions which we don't really have around me, then I will get once since the wife can ride along.
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    Ooooo buddy, delicious changes for the interior indeed!

    That really is a strange wheel setup though, I wonder why they make it so difficult?
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    Good to see another C5 on here. I had a lot of fun with my FRC.

    Do all the steering lock/security bypass shit. That left me stranded so many times that I ended up selling the car because it was so annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by white out View Post
    Good to see another C5 on here. I had a lot of fun with my FRC.

    Do all the steering lock/security bypass shit. That left me stranded so many times that I ended up selling the car because it was so annoying.
    I think it was disabled before me, I know the steering wheel can always move that is. I do really need to hook up a resistor for the airbag yet tho.


    So last thing I was able to install was some fender vents from Electron Sport. They were avail for a while, but finally hit their website. They are 3D printed and very high quality. Here are some pics from their site.

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    I should have taken some install pics, but it literally took maybe 30 min for both sides. I will be taking more pictures again after this one when I am installing parts. Both sides came with a very good template. All you have to do is drop the inner fender liner, pulled the stock block off plastic bit, trim, and reinstall. Cars gonna be very dirty from now on.

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    Not sure what they will do, but venting positive pressure behind the wheels always helps.
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