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    Hi All!

    I recently aquired a 1987 190e 2.3 M102 Auto. Its in great shape and my goals for the build are low, wheels, nardi wood, and a system. She already has euro headlamps and I am on the hunt for a Heckblende for the rear.

    From research, ill be going with E36 coilovers, and I will do a DIY to make it clear because the thread on here is hot garbage lol.

    Wheels I am still searching but I am ok with reps if they are period correct (gottis, ARE, etc...)

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    Looks like a decently clean base to start with
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    Quote Originally Posted by hinrichs View Post
    Looks like a decently clean base to start with
    Thanks!

    coilovers just came in, and Ill do a write up on them. If any of the springs dont work out...im a spring product engineer and can make whatever is needed happen .

    Pics soon!

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    shitty maxxpeedingrods e36 coils about to get hacked up to work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duhafnusa4 View Post
    Hi All!

    I recently aquired a 1987 190e 2.3 M102 Auto. Its in great shape and my goals for the build are low, wheels, nardi wood, and a system. She already has euro headlamps and I am on the hunt for a Heckblende for the rear.

    From research on site, ill be going with E36 coilovers, and I will do a DIY to make it clear because the thread on here is hot garbage lol.

    Wheels I am still searching but I am ok with reps if they are period correct (gottis, ARE, etc...)

    What engine do you have? Is the 8-liter variant of the M102 family developed on the basis of the 2.0-liter M102 E20?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrentBauer View Post
    What engine do you have? Is the 8-liter variant of the M102 family developed on the basis of the 2.0-liter M102 E20?
    Huh? I have the 2.3 sohc M102. 1987 was the first year of the higher hp (130?) variant. I dont know much beyond that.

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    So I have the front E36 Coilovers in the car. DAMN the information on installing these is so lacking. Ill make a full DIY in another post but heres what you need to do to make them work.

    Notch out your mounting holes. The E36 ones are slightly smaller bolt circle than the 190E. Yes I know this isnt ideal, and ill be making camber plate mounts that are correct for the 190E (ill be making a full E36 to 190E coilover conversion kit)



    Then take your E36 coil bodies and chop off the top mounting bracket. It isnt used. Make it as nice or ghetto as you want. I just primered mine for now.



    The spot where the old spring sat needs to be "clearanced" a bit. Take your favorite hammer and get some anger out of your system.



    Now its time to bolt this Sh1t up. There are 3 bolts. Do the lower 2 first (leave them loose) then slam the top bolt in with a hammer and ugga dugga them bishes.











    Rears coming soon. Also if these freaking pics dont embed and make you click imma be heated.

    Also I need to lower it more...

    TTFN
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    Ill be doing the rears this weekend, you want to be able to adjust camber, so making these arms is the way to go. Found out parts needed from an old mercedes 190e thread on here actually.


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    Hey All! Rear is now done! I used the parts that came in the maxxpeedingrods e36 coilovers kit, sans springs.

    You use the stock springs, and cut them shorter. I cut 4 coils off from the LOWER end. DO NOT cut from the upper, tappered end. That is where the adjustment perch sits. Keep the rubber isolator in the upper mount area.
    For the shock, remove the e36 upper mount, and put the stock 190E rubber bushing on it, and the washer on the top side needs to be opened up as the E36 strut rod is 2mm bigger. For the lower mount, it is 5mm wider than the 190E. Remove 2.5 ish from each side. I am using the adjustable camber arms that another thread linked parts to on Speedway. They worked perfectly.









    and the final result. Currently at 61mm fender to floor all around. No rubs or scrubs. Once I get proper wheels ill set the height better.

    Specs:

    Front Toe = 0
    Front Camber = -2.5 degs
    Rear Toe = 1 degree in
    Rear Camber = -2.0 degs


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    No one likes my build lollllll. I need to step up my game and get some rare wheels now.

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    Do it, why wait?
    How do you like the ride quality on those max speeding rods? I didn't like it on an e30 and on my mk3 golf, maybe they work better in the w124?
    "You could roll an E30 in a BMW showroom today and people would think:
    Well, they finally got the 1 series right!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duhafnusa4 View Post
    No one likes my build lollllll. I need to step up my game and get some rare wheels now.
    First post with lame pic pissed me off, so I wrote it off as a dud.

    Coming back now, things are looking much more interesting. Good on you for making a better write-up on the coilover adaptation. A DTM inspired 190e has been on my "cars to build someday" list for some time now. Looking forward to seeing what you do with yours.

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    Those front upper mounts scare me, but good job so far on doing the conversion. Ill be watching to see how this progresses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnmzl View Post
    Do it, why wait?
    How do you like the ride quality on those max speeding rods? I didn't like it on an e30 and on my mk3 golf, maybe they work better in the w124?
    Not as awful as I expected? On ebay they said they are 8k FR and RR, I havent confirmed this but they do feel on the softer side. I think 9 or 10k may be better up front, im getting a batch of stuff from swift (since I need shorter springs in the front to go lower anyways) and ill test and report

    Quote Originally Posted by Miroteknik View Post
    First post with lame pic pissed me off, so I wrote it off as a dud.

    Coming back now, things are looking much more interesting. Good on you for making a better write-up on the coilover adaptation. A DTM inspired 190e has been on my "cars to build someday" list for some time now. Looking forward to seeing what you do with yours.
    Yeah IDKWTF happened there. Felt like I was posting in 2005 lol. My bad. Photobucket being a d#$% has made things trickier. I use flikr now but open to other hosting sites. Yeah IDK if I am going DTM or maybe more "slippery bar of soap" I am hunting on ebay.de for neat aftermarket wings and whatnot. I think that could be more fun, make it like mercedes version of an MtechI or II kit? Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by hinrichs View Post
    Those front upper mounts scare me, but good job so far on doing the conversion. Ill be watching to see how this progresses.
    Yeah ditto. Short term solution. I dont like the position of the camber plates (adjusts both caster and camber when moving them lol, So I plan on redrilling, and adding a reinforcement plate on the topside. Ill post that here too.

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    UPDATE:

    The M102 is an ok lil motor, but I need inline 5 or 6 sounds. Help me choose my junkyard engine love affair

    2JZGE from a gs300, maybe using the auto for simplicity, maybe using bmw getrag 5 speed for the poon

    BMW M50/M52 with OEM Getrag 5 speed. The Mercedes forums would **** me :0

    Volvo Whiteblock 5 or 6 cylinder because I want to pretend I am going to gatebil

    Mercedes M111 Supercharged 4 cylinder because I can get mounts from a euro w124 and my stock shitty 4 speed auto bolts to it. Easiest way to 200ish hp. But boring

    K swap

    If you think of other options I am open to it. I can and like doing fab, as long as its reasonable lol. The swap will be happening over the next months. If I can get a whole car I will.

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    I'd do an LFX swap on that thing. All others are either done or boring in a W124 IMO. Or an Alfa Romeo v6, they sound SICK.
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    Well, they finally got the 1 series right!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnmzl View Post
    I'd do an LFX swap on that thing. All others are either done or boring in a W124 IMO. Or an Alfa Romeo v6, they sound SICK.
    I want to stay away from any v engines because the steering box is in the way.

    Maybe im boring, but I am picking up a 2000 slk230 (M111 Supercharged 2.3) for 450 bucks this weekend. It will be bolted to a w58 manual transmission and be twincharged (stock supercharger feeding the turbo inlet until 3000 rpm then rpm switch to open electric throttle for turbo to breathe around it, all through speeduino)

    Oh shes lower now too. I cut 50mm from the front E36 strut mounting body and dropped her down. I also scooped some period correct Centra Type 11s, 15x7 ET28. I think a 10mm spacer in the rear would be perfect.







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    Update of the build no one cares about lol.

    I have aquired the slk230 and did a nice lil roasty burnout to make sure it worked. It does. It has some intake on it and a full jdm style exhaust with a real apexi cannon muf. I am going to keep it because I love mixing German/Japanese style.

    The engine in the slk specs wise is pretty awesome. 2.3 liters, fully forged internals, wasted spark coil on plug (like an evo 8), boosted,

    Here are some pics of things









    fukk



    The whole squad (ranger has a he351 boosted 2.3 running 17 lbs )



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    Nice, looks like that will be fun after the swap. Cant wait to watch the progress on it.
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    Feel like it needs atleast some 17s. Engine swap will be interesting for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hinrichs View Post
    Nice, looks like that will be fun after the swap. Cant wait to watch the progress on it.
    Thanks yeah! Ill be porting the SC, making my own tune etc.. From everything ive seen from the Norwegien and Polish boys, that should be around 240whp/260wtq. Double where I am at now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graphitemk6 View Post
    Feel like it needs atleast some 17s. Engine swap will be interesting for sure.
    Yeah originally that was the plan, but these Centras fell into my lap and I had to try them out. I am hunting for center caps still, and with 15s I can go lower Yeah the M111 is an interesting engine for sure.

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